The Cable Conundrum. Are We Really Hearing The Difference ?

[JDl]

Yeah.........

 

[ToppingSMSL]

There are countless videos on YouTube explaining why cables will not sound different (unless their measurements fall outside very wide parameters which would be a design flaw).

 

[Jasonovich]

Yeah.........

Oh look you've labelled the mains plug, that's a start! 🤣

 

[JDl]

Oh look you've labelled the mains plug, that's a start! 🤣

Yeah, kind of helpful to know which one's which sometimes.

 

[JDl]

Doctor Doctor what is your prognosis regarding my obsession with cables?​

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You need more cables.​

I don't know about cable fraud but one thing is certain, I really must do better cable management.

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This isn't so bad.
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This is a disaster!

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Actually, Jason, our old farmhouse hasn't been re-wired since about 1960. In the living room, we have one double socket., and it's not even in a particularly convenient place in the room to have the only socket.
But on the plus side it's a really nice place to live and since it's just two old brothers who live there, we don't care too much about having extension leads going all the way around the room.

 

[abacus]

Actually, Jason, our old farmhouse hasn't been re-wired since about 1960. In the living room, we have one double socket., and it's not even in a particularly convenient place in the room to have the only socket.
But on the plus side it's a really nice place to live and since it's just two old brothers who live there, we don't care too much about having extension leads going all the way around the room.

Get the electrics checked as they are probably in very bad condition.

Bill

 

[JDl]

Get the electrics checked as they are probably in very bad condition.

Bill

It's fine, really. It was looked over recently. Old but ok.
Thanks for your concern though 👍🏻

 

[Jasonovich]

Actually, Jason, our old farmhouse hasn't been re-wired since about 1960. In the living room, we have one double socket., and it's not even in a particularly convenient place in the room to have the only socket.
But on the plus side it's a really nice place to live and since it's just two old brothers who live there, we don't care too much about having extension leads going all the way around the room.

I think back in the day, people were more resourceful, only now we have become accustomed to having many location of the the mains in just one room. In my kitchen/utility I have about seven dual wall sockets but in the bathroom we have none, which is poor planning. 😊

 

[JDl]

I think back in the day, people were more resourceful, only now we have become accustomed to having many location of the the mains in just one room. In my kitchen/utility I have about seven dual wall sockets but in the bathroom we have none, which is poor planning. 😊

Seven dual sockets. THAT IS NOT FAIR!

 

[Gray]

I think back in the day, people were more resourceful, only now we have become accustomed to having many location of the the mains in just one room. In my kitchen/utility I have about seven dual wall sockets but in the bathroom we have none, which is poor planning. 😊

Due to very limited mains sockets, they used to plug electric irons into ceiling bulb holders (Pretty sure my Mum did) no earth in sight, cable wrapped round their necks.

In contrast, my brother rewired his 1960s house - really likes his gadgets - in a small upstairs bedroom that he calls his tech room, I kid you not, he's got 55 wall sockets (with another 20 outlets on multi-gang and IEC sockets).....his electricity bill is higher than mine 🤪

 

[JDl]

Due to very limited mains sockets, they used to plug electric irons into ceiling bulb holders (Pretty sure my Mum did) no earth in sight, cable wrapped round their necks.

In contrast, my brother rewired his 1960s house - really likes his gadgets - in a small upstairs bedroom that he calls his tech room, I kid you not, he's got 55 wall sockets (with another 20 outlets on multi-gang and IEC sockets).....his electricity bill is higher than mine 🤪

Krikey, what does he do in his "Tech Room"?

 

[davidf]

Krikey, what does he do in his "Tech Room"?

Tech stuff.

 

[Jasonovich]

Due to very limited mains sockets, they used to plug electric irons into ceiling bulb holders (Pretty sure my Mum did) no earth in sight, cable wrapped round their necks.

In contrast, my brother rewired his 1960s house - really likes his gadgets - in a small upstairs bedroom that he calls his tech room, I kid you not, he's got 55 wall sockets (with another 20 outlets on multi-gang and IEC sockets).....his electricity bill is higher than mine 🤪

Oh wow that's insane! 🙂

 

[Gray]

Krikey, what does he do in his "Tech Room"?

He just gave the room its own 32A ring, with dado trunking around 3 walls - stuffed with double sockets - so he would "never run out".
He's got AV mixers, stage lights, CCTV, test gear, several monitor screens, the usual routers and things that everyone has.....plus stuff that normal people don't have 🤪
There are wall switches and indicators for control of other rooms and outside lighting.
He's drawn a wiring diagram of how sensors etc connect and affect each other.
OK while he's there - future owners of his house won't have a chance.

 

[Gray]

Due to very limited mains sockets, they used to plug electric irons into ceiling bulb holders

And I've still got a few of what they used to connect all sorts of appliances to the light fittings:

Never any concern for live and neutral polarity - things worked and that's all they needed to know.
Virtually non-existent cable clamping and no earth 🤨

 

[Jasonovich]

He just gave the room its own 32A ring, with dado trunking around 3 walls - stuffed with double sockets - so he would "never run out".
He's got AV mixers, stage lights, CCTV, test gear, several monitor screens, the usual routers and things that everyone has.....plus stuff that normal people don't have 🤪
There are wall switches and indicators for control of other rooms and outside lighting.
He's drawn a wiring diagram of how sensors etc connect and affect each other.
OK while he's there - future owners of his house won't have a chance.

He's clearly on another level from most of us!
Is that the same brother who has passion for photography?

 

[Jasonovich]

And I've still got a few of what they used to connect all sorts of appliances to the light fittings:
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Never any concern for live and neutral polarity - things worked and that's all they needed to know.
Virtually non-existent cable clamping and no earth 🤨

I remember those, Woolies use to sell them. A long time ago!
I remember getting electric shock trying to fit them in bayonet bulb plug. When you're kid you don't think about turning off the light switch! 😆

 

[Al ears]

I think back in the day, people were more resourceful, only now we have become accustomed to having many location of the the mains in just one room. In my kitchen/utility I have about seven dual wall sockets but in the bathroom we have none, which is poor planning. 😊

All I have in my bathroom is an electric light and a shaver socket, as it should be.....

 

[Gray]

I remember those, Woolies use to sell them. A long time ago!
I remember getting electric shock trying to fit them in bayonet bulb plug. When you're kid you don't think about turning off the light switch! 😆

😆 But that's how we learned to respect 240 volts.
Kids today, don't know they're born.
(but then fewer 10 year olds are getting regular shocks these days 😉).

 

[Jasonovich]

😆 But that's how we learned to respect 240 volts.
Kids today, don't know they're born.
(but then fewer 10 year olds are getting regular shocks these days 😉).

Yes 240 volts was really shocking! 🤣
Kids today won't be shocked to learn, it's now reduced to 230 volts and EU increased from 220 to 230, so now we have parity with EU!

 

[JDl]

He just gave the room its own 32A ring, with dado trunking around 3 walls - stuffed with double sockets - so he would "never run out".
He's got AV mixers, stage lights, CCTV, test gear, several monitor screens, the usual routers and things that everyone has.....plus stuff that normal people don't have 🤪
There are wall switches and indicators for control of other rooms and outside lighting.
He's drawn a wiring diagram of how sensors etc connect and affect each other.
OK while he's there - future owners of his house won't have a chance.

That is very cool....I think.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

 

[JDl]

Due to very limited mains sockets, they used to plug electric irons into ceiling bulb holders (Pretty sure my Mum did) no earth in sight, cable wrapped round their necks.

In contrast, my brother rewired his 1960s house - really likes his gadgets - in a small upstairs bedroom that he calls his tech room, I kid you not, he's got 55 wall sockets (with another 20 outlets on multi-gang and IEC sockets).....his electricity bill is higher than mine 🤪

Actually, I think I'll invite him round to my place. I think he'd really enjoy rigging me up a ring main and some sockets. I make the best coffee in Wales.....

 

[JDl]

All I have in my bathroom is an electric light and a shaver socket, as it should be.....

That's twice as much electrical equipment as my bathroom. I bet I've got more spiders than you though.

 

[Jasonovich]

That's twice as much electrical equipment as my bathroom. I bet I've got more spiders than you though.

These eight legged migrants have taken over all the cracks and crevices in my home, not fair I have to pay my Council Taxes, this this this...... hundred eyes thingy keeps telling me, talk to the hand.
I mean, which hand, there's eight of them!

 

[Roger_A]

Yes 240 volts was really shocking! 🤣
Kids today won't be shocked to learn, it's now reduced to 230 volts and EU increased from 220 to 230, so now we have parity with EU!

Except it hasn't reduced at all in fact, they've just called it that with a with a range of acceptable voltage that covers 240V. When I measure the voltage in our house it actually measures 245V.