Well, a very productive day - I did my final audition of a Yamaha 1067 and although it has a little more clarity than an Onkyo 609, I found it (my opinion only) to be seriously lacking in cohesion (balance on the rear speakers was particularly obvious) and didn't have the full sound that the Onkyo possess. I've walked out having ordered a B&W MT-25, the Onkyo and all the relevant cabling and with network plugs and the Panny blu ray player arriving on Monday I'm all spent up - at least for one weekend!! So now I've got a few painstaking weeks to wait whilst the gear arrives - What are people's thoughts on sub placement? I've measured enough cabling to have it tucked away to the side of our sofa near the rear left speaker. Will position affect the optomisation? Sales guy didn't think it'd make a difference but eager to gauge a rounded view.