Stand mount for life...

[Anonymous]

I have heard standmounts and can appreciate people not wanting overpowering bass but i want to feel the bass, the weight and the scale of the music without the former overpowering the rest and these speakers do it superbly.

So certainly within the budget range, I am yet to be convinced whatsoever of the merits of trading in my floorstanders for standmounts. I am sure there are more costly standmounts which excel where perhaps the speakers I have heard don't, so I am not ruling it out but I definitely have not been sold on them.

 

[Anonymous]

Pound for Pound, a pair of standmounts, on decent stands, will probably deliver more quality than floorstanders, simply due to more money being available for manufacturers to spend on the speaker cones and / or crossovers etc. than on the cabinets. HOWEVER, if you factor in the £100 or so a decent pair of stands is going to cost, the financial difference begins to evaporate. Also, with kids or drunken party revellers likely to knock stand mounts off their stands, floorstanders have their advantages.

Good floorstanders have their own aesthetics, and the Misson 752 and 753 speakers, for example, had superbly crafed rosewood veneered cabinets.

Finally, I too am in the liking to "feel" bass camp, so it's floorstanders all the way for me. That might change if I ever find myself living in a student bedsit again, but for now.....

As for the wife. If I have to put up with her green draylon couch.......

 

[Anonymous]

Darren Heal:

Pound for Pound, a pair of standmounts, on decent stands, will probably deliver more quality than floorstanders, simply due to more money being available for manufacturers to spend on the speaker cones and / or crossovers etc. than on the cabinets. HOWEVER, if you factor in the £100 or so a decent pair of stands is going to cost, the financial difference begins to evaporate. Also, with kids or drunken party revellers likely to knock stand mounts off their stands, floorstanders have their advantages.

Good floorstanders have their own aesthetics, and the Misson 752 and 753 speakers, for example, had superbly crafed rosewood veneered cabinets.

Finally, I too am in the liking to "feel" bass camp, so it's floorstanders all the way for me. That might change if I ever find myself living in a student bedsit again, but for now.....

As for the wife. If I have to put up with her green draylon couch.......
Hi Darren, think B&W 800 diamond series would disagree with you on that.

 

[SHAXOS]

Why should it make a difference with the 800 diamond series? For any given price point it makes sense that as you increase the number of drivers the money spent on each individual driver will decrease.

 

[Dougal1331]

igglebert:

Oh my goodness me- what are these and how much do they cost? They look awesome!

 

[Anonymous]

SHAXOS:Why should it make a difference with the 800 diamond series? For any given price point it makes sense that as you increase the number of drivers the money spent on each individual driver will decrease. You can pick up a pair of original 802 d speakers for the price of the new 805d speakers with stands. Go and listen to both of them, then have a good cry because you don,t own the 802s

 

[Anonymous]

johnnyjazz:Darren Heal:

Pound for Pound, a pair of standmounts, on decent stands, will probably deliver more quality than floorstanders, simply due to more money being available for manufacturers to spend on the speaker cones and / or crossovers etc. than on the cabinets. HOWEVER, if you factor in the £100 or so a decent pair of stands is going to cost, the financial difference begins to evaporate. Also, with kids or drunken party revellers likely to knock stand mounts off their stands, floorstanders have their advantages.

Good floorstanders have their own aesthetics, and the Misson 752 and 753 speakers, for example, had superbly crafed rosewood veneered cabinets.

Finally, I too am in the liking to "feel" bass camp, so it's floorstanders all the way for me. That might change if I ever find myself living in a student bedsit again, but for now.....

As for the wife. If I have to put up with her green draylon couch.......

Hi Darren, think B&W 800 diamond series would disagree with you on that.

Maybe so, but is that the exception that proves the rule?

Say a speaker manufacturer has a budget of say £100 to turn out a pair of speakers (his cost, not the price the consumer pays at the shop). Assuming his cabinet cost (we'll call that X in best algebra tradition) is directly proportional to cabinet size (not a precise formula I agree) then if the cabinets for floor standers are twice the height of the equivalent standmounters, it stands to reason that the manufacturer has £100-X to spend on the standmounter internals compared to £100-2X for the floorstanders. QED unless the manufacturer has the residual hearing of a retired lifetime pneumatic drill operator, the standmounters should have better internals than the floorstanders. Whether that translates into an overall improvement in audio quality is then down to the skill of the manufacturer in selecting and matching all the components. Sometimes that will work out superbly (as, maybe, in the case of the B&Ws you mentioned), sometimes not.

 

[Anonymous]

Yea Darren, i would agree with you on your mathematical theory, less money spent on cabinet, money saved over for better electronics etc. To be honest, once you have tooled up to profile lets say 2 drivers on the face of the floorstander and exact same for the stand mounter, then i think the extra cost for mdf , veneer, lacquer etc is very low, compaired to sale price at end product.

 

[SHAXOS]

johnnyjazz:SHAXOS:Why should it make a difference with the 800 diamond series? For any given price point it makes sense that as you increase the number of drivers the money spent on each individual driver will decrease. You can pick up a pair of original 802 d speakers for the price of the new 805d speakers with stands. Go and listen to both of them, then have a good cry because you don,t own the 802s

I would not say the 805d and the 802D are price comparable. Yeah you could buy secondhand versions but cost at time of development is not the same hence i still stand by my arguement that pound for pound standmounters = better quality.

 

[SHAXOS]

johnnyjazz:Yea Darren, i would agree with you on your mathematical theory, less money spent on cabinet, money saved over for better electronics etc. To be honest, once you have tooled up to profile lets say 2 drivers on the face of the floorstander and exact same for the stand mounter, then i think the extra cost for mdf , veneer, lacquer etc is very low, compaired to sale price at end product.

I agree that the cost would not be very high but you have to look at the use of drivers too. Very rarly do floorstanders have less or equal drivers to stand mounts. The only ones i can think of are neat motives 3 and motives 2 which have the same number of drivers yet one is a stand mount and one is a floorstander.Ive heard them both and owned the 2s and they are both very good.

 

[sometimesuk]

Dougal1331:

igglebert:

Oh my goodness me- what are these and how much do they cost? They look awesome!

They are Spendor SP100R's. They are part of Spendor's Classic line.

Cost is about £5700 and were given a five star review, in the WHF Guide to the Hi-end. These speakers are massive compared to normal standmounts. 700mm high, 370mm wide (not too bad) and 430mm deep.

I want a pair!

 

[Dougal1331]

£5700 you say? That's not going to happen then...

 

[Anonymous]

Don't forget the church-hall sized room you'll need to home them. One day, one day...

 

[JoelSim]

I prefer a pair of standmounts and a pair of floorstanders. To suit the mood.

 

[IJ]

I don't think you need floorstanders to feel the bass. Good standmounts have no problem in this department.