Spotify Lossless

[Al ears]

I don't use quobuz or tidal or Spotify ,I will no accept any of there offers .there's better out there

What?

 

[Shrek]

Recently prescribed to Apple Music wont be going back to Spotify .

 

[record_spot]

No sign of Lossless on my Android app. Updated the app, reinstalled it. Nothing.

Premium individual account. What an I missing?!?

 

[Dave_]

No sign of Lossless on my Android app. Updated the app, reinstalled it. Nothing.

Premium individual account. What an I missing?!?

It's being rolled out gradually

 

[record_spot]

It's being rolled out gradually

Thanks Dave. I did wonder. I've a Qobuz account but when this was rolled out, I took up the offer of a heavily reduced 2 month Premium subscription. Will see how it goes. Thanks again. 👍

 

[Cricketbat70]

Thanks Dave. I did wonder. I've a Qobuz account but when this was rolled out, I took up the offer of a heavily reduced 2 month Premium subscription. Will see how it goes. Thanks again. 👍

From what I read on the Spotify website, I think the roll out starts in October.

 

[record_spot]

From what I read on the Spotify website, I think the roll out starts in October.

Ah, right, I missed that in the blurb. They haven't updated all their support pages to reflect that. Cheers. 👍

 

[Dave_]

When can I start listening?

Lossless is rolling out gradually to more than 50 markets through October. Premium subscribers in Australia, Austria, Czechia, Denmark, Germany, Japan, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden, the US, and the UK have already started to get access.

Lossless Listening Arrives on Spotify Premium With a Richer, More Detailed Listening Experience — Spotify

Lossless on Spotify Premium is here. Lossless audio has been one of the most anticipated features on Spotify and now, finally, it’s started rolling out to Premium listeners in select markets. Premium subscribers will receive a notification in Spotify once Lossless becomes available to them...

newsroom.spotify.com

 

[Witterings]

From what I read on the Spotify website, I think the roll out starts in October.

Kind of shooting themselves in the foot .... they've released free trials for a premium service they're not offereing .... I honestly can't belive their stupidity, save the trial until you know people can receive it.

 

[richardmcd]

What?

What? There is better out there

 

[Al ears]

What? There is better out there

That was my question, what is?

 

[richardmcd]

That was my question, what is?

Google is your friend ,have a look there is a few ,

 

[Al ears]

Google is your friend ,have a look there is a few ,

Was asking you, you are the one that said there are.

 

[Angle Poise-Lamp]

Google is your friend ,have a look there is a few ,

Google is only your friend, if you are in the advertising business...

 

[richardmcd]

Google is only your friend, if you are in the advertising business...

Correct ,but you know you can filter things out in Google ,give it a try ,you can avoid the advertisement crap .narrow down your search .

 

[Angle Poise-Lamp]

Correct ,but you know you can filter things out in Google ,give it a try ,you can avoid the advertisement crap .narrow down your search .

I don't use Google, I use DuckDuckGo.

 

[Jasonovich]

I don't use Google, I use DuckDuckGo.

This is getting quackers! 🤣

Seriously though, I'm thinking of ditching Google, even with the filters on, still getting predicted spending popups.

 

[RoA]

View: https://youtu.be/mH2723cSejE?si=JYo--27LlB4mzpyH

 

[RTHerringbone]

Lossless has just appeared as an option for me, so I'll be able to hear for myself if there's any tangible improvement.

 

[DCarmi]

Lossless has just appeared as an option for me, so I'll be able to hear for myself if there's any tangible improvement.

I have it too, but not tried it yet.

 

[Cricketbat70]

Lossless has just appeared as an option for me, so I'll be able to hear for myself if there's any tangible improvement.

Just checked my phone yep now available for me.

 

[RTHerringbone]

And whilst I personally don't really like all of these measurements etc. to prove a point, it is a major ball drop from Spotify.

They'll have known that there are very particular nerds in the audio space who would have been pouncing on this instantly, so it entirely devalues their current implementation of a lossless proposition. They're fortunate they didn't have the nerve to charge for it (maybe this is why!) because then they could have had a bit of a problem.

 

[Juzzie Wuzzie]

Ll has appeared for me too.

 

[manicm]

View: https://youtu.be/mH2723cSejE?si=JYo--27LlB4mzpyH

I didn't take this video very seriously as it was solely focused on mobile/PC playback. And without an external DAC you won't get bitperfect out of Tidal or Qobuz anyway - on a phone/PC.

WHF's review however has suggested, at the same lossless bitrates, Tidal still sounds better.

Instead of these videos I'm more interested in personal feedback here.

 

[Vincent Kars]

Wonder where all the fuss is about.
Spotify delivers a lossless file to your renderer.
If your renderer is not able to provide bit perfect output, does that make Spotify lossy?
I'm afraid Goldensound is unable to discriminate between lossy and bit perfect.

Anyway, Spotify delivers 44.1 kHz FLAC. If you set Win (or Mac) to 44.1 kHz, no resampling will take place.
Now you still have the mixer running. It convert to float, mix (even if one stream is running), dither and convert back to integer.
If you have an old DAC, one only able to do 16 bit, this might be audible. In fact they invented dither because signals at -96 dBFS are audible. Now what if you have a more modern DAC, one able to do 24 or 32 bit?
Dither affects the LSB. Bit 24 is at -144 dBFS. (32 at -192 of course). Do you have any component in your playback chain able to resolve this?
Do you have any 24 bit recording with musical information in bit 24? You don't, 20 or 21 one is about the max a very quiet recording chain can resolve.

I'm afraid this video is a typical case of much ado about nothing.