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Reviewers are professional and the first rule of a professional is 'get some paid work', anf keep it.

The hi-fi industry relies on a constant steam of new product to be disected, reviewed and discussed. The 'professional' buys into the illusion that this months gear is better than last months gear and that it is important for him to tell you all about it, that's how it works.
 

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davedotco said:
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Nice avatar! You have officially lost it mate. Now DDC will come and spray you with mercury. *wink*

*biggrin*

Remind me, what did I say mercury was a cure for?

Other than Syphilis of course.

'Mercury' is WHF forum code name for sanity + tact + reasoning. Some say best way to reduce its terrible effects is to not read your graphs. *unknw*
 

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Vladimir said:
davedotco said:
Remind me, what did I say mercury was a cure for?

Other than Syphilis of course.

'Mercury' is WHF forum code name for sanity + tact + reasoning. Some say best way to reduce its terrible effects is to not read your graphs. *unknw*

Here's a nice picture of Dave and Vladimir. They seem to be getting on very well.

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matt49 said:
Vladimir said:
davedotco said:
Remind me, what did I say mercury was a cure for?

Other than Syphilis of course.

'Mercury' is WHF forum code name for sanity + tact + reasoning. Some say best way to reduce its terrible effects is to not read your graphs. *unknw*

Here's a nice picture of Dave and Vladimir. They seem to be getting on very well.

cameron_putin--621x414.jpg

So Dave gets to be the better looking one and I can go fishing naked. It all works out.
 

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matt49 said:
Vladimir said:
davedotco said:
Remind me, what did I say mercury was a cure for?

Other than Syphilis of course.

'Mercury' is WHF forum code name for sanity + tact + reasoning. Some say best way to reduce its terrible effects is to not read your graphs. *unknw*

Here's a nice picture of Dave and Vladimir. They seem to be getting on very well.

Not me.

I am not a socialist...!
 

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Punchy topic for Xmas eve

Not sure about the mains cable you list but I am 100% sold on the benefits of the right cables, cheap ones are not going to be great just bear that in mind
 

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ellisdj said:
Punchy topic for Xmas eve

Not sure about the mains cable you list but I am 100% sold on the benefits of the right cables, cheap ones are not going to be great just bear that in mind

Indeed. I know we all like to say how science can't measure sound quality, but we all know that through proximity we can easily tell just by looking at the price tag. Few exceptions apply, of course, however the rule remains and the exception only affirms it.

This Akiko Audio - Triple AC Power Enhancer really pays itself off. A real investment has a real price tag.

If you've read this forum thread and its sequel, you too will be stunned and even frustrated as I am by the sheer stubbornness of some people not to accept solid anecdotal evidence published on manufacturer websites and reputale hi-fi periodicals. Of course we all hear subjectively different and there are no forced standards to guide us, however we cannot deny the fact that a professional manufacturer or hi-fi reviewer has their hearing beyond the norm. It is a developed skill that is aquired through years of refinement. I do believe we cannot afford to simply ignore it. As someone I knew used to say "I'm too poor to buy innexpensive things". And I agree with this since there is only one life to be lived.
 

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Vladimir said:
ellisdj said:
Punchy topic for Xmas eve

Not sure about the mains cable you list but I am 100% sold on the benefits of the right cables, cheap ones are not going to be great just bear that in mind

Indeed. I know we all like to say how science can't measure sound quality, but we all know that through proximity we can easily tell just by looking at the price tag. Few exceptions apply, of course, however the rule remains and the exception only affirms it.

This Akiko Audio - Triple AC Power Enhancer really pays itself off. A real investment has a real price tag.

If you've read this forum thread and its sequel, you too will be stunned and even frustrated as I am by the sheer stubbornness of some people not to accept solid anecdotal evidence published on manufacturer websites and reputale hi-fi periodicals. Of course we all hear subjectively different and there are no forced standards to guide us, however we cannot deny the fact that a professional manufacturer or hi-fi reviewer has their hearing beyond the norm. It is a developed skill that is aquired through years of refinement. I do believe we cannot afford to simply ignore it. As someone I knew used to say "I'm too poor to buy innexpensive things". And I agree with this since there is only one life to be lived.

The problem, dear Vladimir, is that your posts have become increasingly sarcastic.

It has now reached a point where it is actually difficult to differentiate between you being genuine or just facetious ... .

Still, it fills the time, is sometimes funny and you can be helpful.

Merry Xmas :)
 
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Well I got given a nice one along with a very nice terminal block, it looked nice and had the right number of sockets so, out of courtesy, I installed it in my system.

Did it make a difference to the sound? ...... No.

Does it look nice? ........Yes. So it's staying.

It's all about aesthetics don't you think? :)

Yes, indeed! That's why speaker cables are more important than mains leads...

Why? Mine just match the mains lead. :)
 
drummerman said:
Vladimir said:
ellisdj said:
Punchy topic for Xmas eve

Not sure about the mains cable you list but I am 100% sold on the benefits of the right cables, cheap ones are not going to be great just bear that in mind

Indeed. I know we all like to say how science can't measure sound quality, but we all know that through proximity we can easily tell just by looking at the price tag. Few exceptions apply, of course, however the rule remains and the exception only affirms it.

This Akiko Audio - Triple AC Power Enhancer really pays itself off. A real investment has a real price tag.

If you've read this forum thread and its sequel, you too will be stunned and even frustrated as I am by the sheer stubbornness of some people not to accept solid anecdotal evidence published on manufacturer websites and reputale hi-fi periodicals. Of course we all hear subjectively different and there are no forced standards to guide us, however we cannot deny the fact that a professional manufacturer or hi-fi reviewer has their hearing beyond the norm. It is a developed skill that is aquired through years of refinement. I do believe we cannot afford to simply ignore it. As someone I knew used to say "I'm too poor to buy innexpensive things". And I agree with this since there is only one life to be lived.

The problem, dear Vladimir, is that your posts have become increasingly sarcastic.

It has now reached a point where it is actually difficult to differentiate between you being genuine or just facetious ... .

Still, it fills the time, is sometimes funny and you can be helpful.

Merry Xmas :)

I've got him Sussed, I think.
 

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Clearer audio copper line alpha at about £40 is a good cable to start with. These sell really well on ebay if your not happy with it

The £100 ish copper line topmone is much better again and these make interesting purchases I found a while ago.
 

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ellisdj said:
Clearer audio copper line alpha at about £40 is a good cable to start with. These sell really well on ebay if your not happy with it.
They have a 60 day return period, so no need to sell it on.
 

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Iceman recently posted he got a copper prong plug. Maybe he could share his thoughts here if he reads this thread.

Doesn't copper oxidize and create that patina on top? Do you have to ocassionally clean it with something?
 

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Trust your ears, not the opinions of others who might have personal beliefs which colour their opinions and dull their hearing.

Then, if you believe the difference in sound quality warrants the price of the cable, it's up to you to decide if you want to spend your money.

Listening is key.
 

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Trust your ears, not the opinions of others who might have personal beliefs which colour their opinions and dull their hearing.

Then, if you believe the difference in sound quality warrants the price of the cable, it's up to you to decide if you want to spend your money.

Listening is key.?

 
Don't be ridiculous....that's simply preposterous. *biggrin*
 

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drummerman said:
Vladimir said:
ellisdj said:
Punchy topic for Xmas eve

Not sure about the mains cable you list but I am 100% sold on the benefits of the right cables, cheap ones are not going to be great just bear that in mind

Indeed. I know we all like to say how science can't measure sound quality, but we all know that through proximity we can easily tell just by looking at the price tag. Few exceptions apply, of course, however the rule remains and the exception only affirms it.

This Akiko Audio - Triple AC Power Enhancer really pays itself off. A real investment has a real price tag.?

If you've read this forum thread and its sequel, you too will be stunned and even frustrated as I am by the sheer stubbornness of some people not to accept solid anecdotal evidence published on manufacturer websites and reputale hi-fi periodicals. Of course we all hear subjectively different and there are no forced standards to guide us, however we cannot deny the fact that a professional manufacturer or hi-fi reviewer has their hearing beyond the norm. It is a developed skill that is aquired through years of refinement. I do believe we cannot afford to simply ignore it. As someone I knew used to say "I'm too poor to buy innexpensive things". And I agree with this since there is only one life to be lived.

The problem, dear Vladimir, is that your posts have become increasingly sarcastic.

It has now reached a point where it is actually difficult to differentiate between you being genuine or just facetious ... .

Still, it fills the time, is sometimes funny and you can be helpful.

Merry Xmas  :)
strangely enough you just read my mind
 

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