Speakers for Cyrus Lyric09

[mywifewillkillme]

Hi all

I'm looking for some suggestions on a good speaker match for my Lyric09.

It is currently hooked up to a pair of Monitor Audio BX6's and I fear they might be letting the side down.

The speakers are positioned either side of a chimney breast with little room from rear wall so front ported or sealed enclosure would seem to be the way to go.

I'm thinking ATC SCM 19's or PMC Twenty 22's as I'm a sucker for an acronym.

Thanks in advance

 

[bluedroog]

Both good speakers but both have a very particular sound which isn;t for everybody. You really need to go and listen for yourself.

For me the PMC Twenty 22s do so much right but I just couldn't get on with the tranmission line.

 

[Al ears]

Hi all

I'm looking for some suggestions on a good speaker match for my Lyric09.

It is currently hooked up to a pair of Monitor Audio BX6's and I fear they might be letting the side down.

The speakers are positioned either side of a chimney breast with little room from rear wall so front ported or sealed enclosure would seem to be the way to go.

I'm thinking ATC SCM 19's or PMC Twenty 22's as I'm a sucker for an acronym.

Thanks in advance

I guess either of those would be good although the PMC's would be easier to drive. What's your top budget and, more to the point, what can you actually get to audition.?

Welcome to the forum and just hope your wife hasn't killed you yet.

Just don't be suckered in by speakers as you're Bolingbrook have to live with them for a while. Make sure they really suit your room.

How big is that by the way?

For sealed box look at the Audionote range or second hand EB Acoustics EB2's if you can ever find any.

 

[mywifewillkillme]

Thanks Al Ears and Bluedroog.

Room size is 5x3mtrs and I've got the whole equilateral triangle thing going on at 2mtrs across the room

I suspect any more than 2 grand would lead to an acrimonious divorce in which I may well lose my cat.

What was the issue with transmission line, Bluedroog?

 

[mywifewillkillme]

Opportunities for auditioning limited by dearth of hi-fi outlets in my area (apart from the ubiquitous R Sounds) and my shift pattern.

 

[drummerman]

Cyrus and Spendor is an often touted, apparently successful combination.

 

[bluedroog]

Thanks Al Ears and Bluedroog.

Room size is 5x3mtrs and I've got the whole equilateral triangle thing going on at 2mtrs across the room

I suspect any more than 2 grand would lead to an acrimonious divorce in which I may well lose my cat.

What was the issue with transmission line, Bluedroog?

I felt the bass felt disjointed from the rest of the frequency and I found it very distracting, unacceptable really. Had it not been for that I'd most likely bought a pair. I've read other reports finding the same as I did although many owners disagree too. Transmission lines should be looooong to work best.

 

[ErwinC]

Thanks Al Ears and Bluedroog.

Room size is 5x3mtrs and I've got the whole equilateral triangle thing going on at 2mtrs across the room

I suspect any more than 2 grand would lead to an acrimonious divorce in which I may well lose my cat.

What was the issue with transmission line, Bluedroog?

I felt the bass felt disjointed from the rest of the frequency and I found it very distracting, unacceptable really. Had it not been for that I'd most likely bought a pair. I've read other reports finding the same as I did although many owners disagree too. Transmission lines should be looooong to work best.

All owners and all reviewers disagree with your experience.

A TL of 2 meter is long enough for the 22. At PMC they know what they are doing/designing.

But you should try to listen yourself. I would be very surprised if you experience this 'disjointed' problem.

 

[bluedroog]

Thanks Al Ears and Bluedroog.

Room size is 5x3mtrs and I've got the whole equilateral triangle thing going on at 2mtrs across the room

I suspect any more than 2 grand would lead to an acrimonious divorce in which I may well lose my cat.

What was the issue with transmission line, Bluedroog?

I felt the bass felt disjointed from the rest of the frequency and I found it very distracting, unacceptable really. Had it not been for that I'd most likely bought a pair. I've read other reports finding the same as I did although many owners disagree too. Transmission lines should be looooong to work best.

All owners and all reviewers disagree with your experience.

A TL of 2 meter is long enough for the 22. At PMC they know what they are doing/designing.

But you should try to listen yourself. I would be very surprised if you experience this 'disjointed' problem.

That is quite some claim and it is not much of a suprise those that kept them like them, there are plenty who demoed them, myself included who heard the same as per the thread on PFM.

I feel no loyalty to brands, I couldn't care less. I wanted to like them and what I heard was flawed so I went elsewhere.

A 2 meter transmission line is pretty short.

 

[ErwinC]

Thanks Al Ears and Bluedroog.

Room size is 5x3mtrs and I've got the whole equilateral triangle thing going on at 2mtrs across the room

I suspect any more than 2 grand would lead to an acrimonious divorce in which I may well lose my cat.

What was the issue with transmission line, Bluedroog?

I felt the bass felt disjointed from the rest of the frequency and I found it very distracting, unacceptable really. Had it not been for that I'd most likely bought a pair. I've read other reports finding the same as I did although many owners disagree too. Transmission lines should be looooong to work best.

All owners and all reviewers disagree with your experience.

A TL of 2 meter is long enough for the 22. At PMC they know what they are doing/designing.

But you should try to listen yourself. I would be very surprised if you experience this 'disjointed' problem.

That is quite some claim and it is not much of a suprise those that kept them like them, there are plenty who demoed them, myself included who heard the same as per the thread on PFM.

I feel no loyalty to brands, I couldn't care less. I wanted to like them and what I heard was flawed so I went elsewhere.

A 2 meter transmission line is pretty short.

You know we have discussed this before and there are not plenty (unless you call less than 5 plenty) who have experienced the same as you.

Why not let the topic starter listen for himself and decide?

It is imo of no use to mention your bad experience every time / everywhere PMC is mentioned. That is not helping anyone and to me honestly seems brand bashing. Did you in the meantime try to listen to a pair of PMC in another setup to confirm your findings? I expect not.

BTW, it is not "those that kept them, like them". It is "those that like them, kept them". Strange way of influencing people.

 

[bluedroog]

Thanks Al Ears and Bluedroog.

Room size is 5x3mtrs and I've got the whole equilateral triangle thing going on at 2mtrs across the room

I suspect any more than 2 grand would lead to an acrimonious divorce in which I may well lose my cat.

What was the issue with transmission line, Bluedroog?

I felt the bass felt disjointed from the rest of the frequency and I found it very distracting, unacceptable really. Had it not been for that I'd most likely bought a pair. I've read other reports finding the same as I did although many owners disagree too. Transmission lines should be looooong to work best.

All owners and all reviewers disagree with your experience.

A TL of 2 meter is long enough for the 22. At PMC they know what they are doing/designing.

But you should try to listen yourself. I would be very surprised if you experience this 'disjointed' problem.

That is quite some claim and it is not much of a suprise those that kept them like them, there are plenty who demoed them, myself included who heard the same as per the thread on PFM.

I feel no loyalty to brands, I couldn't care less. I wanted to like them and what I heard was flawed so I went elsewhere.

A 2 meter transmission line is pretty short.

You know we have discussed this before and there are not plenty (unless you call less than 5 plenty) who have experienced the same as you.

Why not let the topic starter listen for himself and decide?

It is imo of no use to mention your bad experience every time / everywhere PMC is mentioned. That is not helping anyone and to me honestly seems brand bashing. Did you in the meantime try to listen to a pair of PMC in another setup to confirm your findings? I expect not.

I'm not brand bashing, just reporting my experince because it is relevent. It is the first time I've mentioned it since we discussed it. I respect your findings and it would be good if you could do the same. If OP finds gets on with them I'll be very pleased.

 

[ErwinC]

Thanks Al Ears and Bluedroog.

Room size is 5x3mtrs and I've got the whole equilateral triangle thing going on at 2mtrs across the room

I suspect any more than 2 grand would lead to an acrimonious divorce in which I may well lose my cat.

What was the issue with transmission line, Bluedroog?

I felt the bass felt disjointed from the rest of the frequency and I found it very distracting, unacceptable really. Had it not been for that I'd most likely bought a pair. I've read other reports finding the same as I did although many owners disagree too. Transmission lines should be looooong to work best.

All owners and all reviewers disagree with your experience.

A TL of 2 meter is long enough for the 22. At PMC they know what they are doing/designing.

But you should try to listen yourself. I would be very surprised if you experience this 'disjointed' problem.

That is quite some claim and it is not much of a suprise those that kept them like them, there are plenty who demoed them, myself included who heard the same as per the thread on PFM.

I feel no loyalty to brands, I couldn't care less. I wanted to like them and what I heard was flawed so I went elsewhere.

A 2 meter transmission line is pretty short.

You know we have discussed this before and there are not plenty (unless you call less than 5 plenty) who have experienced the same as you.

Why not let the topic starter listen for himself and decide?

It is imo of no use to mention your bad experience every time / everywhere PMC is mentioned. That is not helping anyone and to me honestly seems brand bashing. Did you in the meantime try to listen to a pair of PMC in another setup to confirm your findings? I expect not.

I'm not brand bashing, just reporting my experince because it is relevent. It is the first time I've mentioned it since we discussed it. I respect your findings and it would be good if you could do the same. If OP finds gets on with them I'll be very pleased.

I respect you opinion, but calling the PMC TL design flawed is not really respectful (or based on knowledge).

Did you in the meantime try to listen to a pair of PMC speakers to make sure there was no setup problem during the first audition? I would certainly do that if so many people experience something different than me.

 

[bluedroog]

I haven't listened again but as I mentioned before I listening to several pairs of speakers in the same room, on the same stands, in the same position and on the same gear which was about £5ks worth of Leema. It was a purpose built demo room.

 

[Frank Harvey]

Hi all

I'm looking for some suggestions on a good speaker match for my Lyric09.

It is currently hooked up to a pair of Monitor Audio BX6's and I fear they might be letting the side down.

The speakers are positioned either side of a chimney breast with little room from rear wall so front ported or sealed enclosure would seem to be the way to go.

I'm thinking ATC SCM 19's or PMC Twenty 22's as I'm a sucker for an acronym.

Thanks in advance

This really is a "whatever you like" answer! I've used the Lyric with many soeakers successfully - the Lyric is pretty neutral and well balanced, so you'll be listening more to the speakers than the Lyric. It has enough drive and control for the ATC SCM40s, so you should be fine with virtually any other speaker up to this sort of price bracket.

A demo is the only way you'll find out exactly what you like or are looking for.

 

[ErwinC]

I haven't listened again but as I mentioned before I listening to several pairs of speakers in the same room, on the same stands, in the same position and on the same gear which was about £5ks worth of Leema. It was a purpose built demo room.

So nothing could have gone wrong???

A few months ago i listened to a pair of Kef Reference 1 speakers. I (and the shop owner) thought these were not really good sounding, especially for their high price. At the same time we listened to some other speakers in the same room/setup and those sounded a lot better although all of them were cheaper.

After reading the good reviews i was surprised and went back to listen to these KEF Reference 1 speakers. This time i thought they sounded fantastic. The reason was that there was a problem with on of the switchbox connections (the one going to the Ref 1). After correcting that, the sound was completely different and a lot better.

Are you 100% sure the PMC speakers were not connected out of phase?

 

[bluedroog]

I highly doubt that was the issue when I heard them or the others who heard the same as me, they just weren't for me, or them.

 

[CnoEvil]

Some Vienna Acoustics, if you can find a stockist.

 

[mywifewillkillme]

Oh Christ! What have I done?

A benign enquiry regarding transmission lines and twenty-four hours later The Church of Hi-Fi is riven.

 

[Al ears]

Oh Christ! What have I done?

A benign enquiry regarding transmission lines and twenty-four hours later The Church of Hi-Fi is riven.

I'm afraid it's easily done on this forum Judas....

At least nobody has tried to convince you to go Active yet..........