professorhat
Well-known member
I'm amazed at what a diverse and interesting corporate structure Sony has, what with a board of directors made up of Yakuza members, Homer Simpson, Peter Parker and the military with Hannah Montana as CEO.
dont tell anyone , but i seen peter mandleson on hannah montanas yaught the other day , and they were eating sushi
hmtb:with Hannah Montana as CEO.
That's Sir Hannah Montana to you, before the assorted Sony Centre staffers accuse us of being disrespectful...
That's Sir Hannah Montana to you, before the assorted Sony Centre staffers accuse us of being disrespectful...
There is no point in posting PSPs with idol images used by marketing firm to sale the product. You are wasting your time.You are not proving anything. Not to mention they are all for the Western market. Hannah Montan is nobody in Japan, the Japanese worship native idols like Ayumi Hamazaki and Gacke. I am talking about the Japanese market and not Sony goods sold in the West in all its guises.
Product association happens everyday. It helps promote sales.
You still have to explain to me why Sony chose the Yakuza dragon tatto emblem to adorn a limited edition 10,000 only white PS3???? for its market. When they could use anyone or any emblem ..with no connection with crime synidicate or violence.Until you do you are not addressing my assertion.
My assertion is that the yakuza is institutionalised in Japanese life. You see that in many realms and is not simply video games. Its subtle. I have never said in any direct terms that the Yakuza is running Sony. But that there are yakusas in employment like masons in the Police and have somr influence
As for Andew's point about getting insight into another culture, we all need to speak the dialog to a certain degree and lived in that country. You can't get into the Japanese mindset to understand why they do what they do 14,000 miles away in front of a computer. Its arragon and frankly culturally insensitive....I'll say that for any culture. You have to wear the emperor's cloth to feel what an emperor feels. You be telling me you know what chilbirth is like...??
Product association happens everyday. It helps promote sales.
You still have to explain to me why Sony chose the Yakuza dragon tatto emblem to adorn a limited edition 10,000 only white PS3???? for its market. When they could use anyone or any emblem ..with no connection with crime synidicate or violence.Until you do you are not addressing my assertion.
My assertion is that the yakuza is institutionalised in Japanese life. You see that in many realms and is not simply video games. Its subtle. I have never said in any direct terms that the Yakuza is running Sony. But that there are yakusas in employment like masons in the Police and have somr influence
As for Andew's point about getting insight into another culture, we all need to speak the dialog to a certain degree and lived in that country. You can't get into the Japanese mindset to understand why they do what they do 14,000 miles away in front of a computer. Its arragon and frankly culturally insensitive....I'll say that for any culture. You have to wear the emperor's cloth to feel what an emperor feels. You be telling me you know what chilbirth is like...??
professorhat
Well-known member
FLATSCREEN:You still have to explain to me why Sony chose the Yakuza dragon tatto emblem to adorn a limited edition 10,000 only white PS3???? for its market. When they could use anyone iir any emblem ..with no connection with crime synidicate or violence.Until you do you are not addressing my assertion.
Goodness me, we have explained throughout this thread. Yakuza 3 is now available in Japan on the PS3. As a result, as part of a product association tie in, Sony have released a PS3 pack which includes a white PS3 with dragons on it as well as the Yakuza 3 game. This is because the type of people who will want Yakuza 3 will think it looks good and will buy it. Exactly as you say ...
FLATSCREEN:It helps promote sales.
... nothing more sinister than that. Exactly in the same way as a purple PSP with a Hannah Montana game included also attracts certain people to buy the PSP console - it helps drive sales. It's not done because the Sony CEO is a huge Hannah Montana fan.
If you really want to believe the reason Sony have done it is because they are inifiltrated by Yakuza members after all this, then there's not really anything I or anyone else can do to help you I'm afraid. The only thing left to do is get yourself a tin hat to prevent them from downloading your thoughts through Sony's wireless controller...
Goodness me, we have explained throughout this thread. Yakuza 3 is now available in Japan on the PS3. As a result, as part of a product association tie in, Sony have released a PS3 pack which includes a white PS3 with dragons on it as well as the Yakuza 3 game. This is because the type of people who will want Yakuza 3 will think it looks good and will buy it. Exactly as you say ...
FLATSCREEN:It helps promote sales.
... nothing more sinister than that. Exactly in the same way as a purple PSP with a Hannah Montana game included also attracts certain people to buy the PSP console - it helps drive sales. It's not done because the Sony CEO is a huge Hannah Montana fan.
If you really want to believe the reason Sony have done it is because they are inifiltrated by Yakuza members after all this, then there's not really anything I or anyone else can do to help you I'm afraid. The only thing left to do is get yourself a tin hat to prevent them from downloading your thoughts through Sony's wireless controller...
The PS3 Y was launched in Feb 2009! The 80 gig model that Sony no longer makes, The Y3 game you say is launched now???? No its been out for ages. Sega have said there is no Euro release......of course, the game don't appeal to the western mindset of glorifying crime syndicate. Its back to my cultural argument again....
Do you see a Simpson game packaged with a simpson adorned PS3???? Or a Terminator adornded PS3 with the Terminator game???
Do you see a Simpson game packaged with a simpson adorned PS3???? Or a Terminator adornded PS3 with the Terminator game???
Ravey Gravey Davy
Well-known member
The more I read the inconsistency in spelling(and I do not mean foreign language spelling ,I mean mixed levels of syntax), the more I suspect that Professor Quirrells statement on entering the Great Hall seems appropriate.
professorhat
Well-known member
FLATSCREEN:I have never said in any direct terms that the Yakuza is running Sony. But that there are yakusas in employment like masons in the Police and have somr influence
To be fair, it's hard to say what you've said in the past, your posts are edited so much they generally bear little resemblance to what you originally posted. However, if you are now stating that's not what you're saying, we come full circle to...
So what on earth is your point?!
Again, I think I'm going to bed, I don't think there's ever going to be a happy conclusion to this thread!
To be fair, it's hard to say what you've said in the past, your posts are edited so much they generally bear little resemblance to what you originally posted. However, if you are now stating that's not what you're saying, we come full circle to...
So what on earth is your point?!
Again, I think I'm going to bed, I don't think there's ever going to be a happy conclusion to this thread!
The only conclusion is your own no conclusion.......the fact you keep coming back serves my conclusion.I am perfectly relaxed....people can modified their position but still maintain a consistency in their belief.
Flatscreen,
You're talking absolute gibberish.
From www.engadget.com:
"To commemorate the release of Yakuza 3 in Japan, Sony and Sega are bundling the game with a special edition ceramic white 80GB PlayStation 3, complete with a very detailed dragon decal emblazoned on top."
You're talking absolute gibberish.
From www.engadget.com:
"To commemorate the release of Yakuza 3 in Japan, Sony and Sega are bundling the game with a special edition ceramic white 80GB PlayStation 3, complete with a very detailed dragon decal emblazoned on top."
FLATSCREEN:
As for Andew's point about getting insight into another culture, we all need to speak the dialog to a certain degree and lived in that country. You can't get into the Japanese mindset to understand why they do what they do 14,000 miles away in front of a computer. Its arragon and frankly culturally insensitive....I'll say that for any culture. You have to wear the emperor's cloth to feel what an emperor feels. You be telling me you know what chilbirth is like...??
a) What are you going on about?
b) I look forward to Andrew's response
As for Andew's point about getting insight into another culture, we all need to speak the dialog to a certain degree and lived in that country. You can't get into the Japanese mindset to understand why they do what they do 14,000 miles away in front of a computer. Its arragon and frankly culturally insensitive....I'll say that for any culture. You have to wear the emperor's cloth to feel what an emperor feels. You be telling me you know what chilbirth is like...??
a) What are you going on about?
b) I look forward to Andrew's response
FLATSCREEN:You can't get into the Japanese mindset to understand why they do what they do 14,000 miles away in front of a computer.
I'm not entirely sure whether it's possible to get 14,000 miles away from Japan anywhere on Earth.
FLATSCREEN:Its arragon
Nor am I entirely sure why a former Spanish kingdom is germane to the subject in hand.
FLATSCREEN:You have to wear the emperor's cloth to feel what an
emperor feels.
Does being married to a Japanese, who finds your comments even more offensive than I do, and having an extended Japanese family without a clue what you're on about, count?
Or is your limited experience of living in Japan 'as a foreigner' among that 'weird bunch' more relevant to the discussion than my 20+ years of visiting Japan, travelling extensively to different parts of the country, living in a Japanese family home and so on...?
FLATSCREEN:You be telling me you know what chilbirth is like...??
Now you be jus' tarkin' loike a comedy yokel, which I am sure the rural community will find equally unacceptable.
FLATSCREEN:Why not a Final Fantasy 13 PS3 with the Squaresoft game. Earlier FF
games sold millions of copies worldwide.Episode 13 will be the biggest
game from Japan.Surely, a special commemoraive Ps3 is needed to make
the game bigger??
What, like this one you mean...?
I'm not entirely sure whether it's possible to get 14,000 miles away from Japan anywhere on Earth.
FLATSCREEN:Its arragon
Nor am I entirely sure why a former Spanish kingdom is germane to the subject in hand.
FLATSCREEN:You have to wear the emperor's cloth to feel what an
emperor feels.
Does being married to a Japanese, who finds your comments even more offensive than I do, and having an extended Japanese family without a clue what you're on about, count?
Or is your limited experience of living in Japan 'as a foreigner' among that 'weird bunch' more relevant to the discussion than my 20+ years of visiting Japan, travelling extensively to different parts of the country, living in a Japanese family home and so on...?
FLATSCREEN:You be telling me you know what chilbirth is like...??
Now you be jus' tarkin' loike a comedy yokel, which I am sure the rural community will find equally unacceptable.
FLATSCREEN:Why not a Final Fantasy 13 PS3 with the Squaresoft game. Earlier FF
games sold millions of copies worldwide.Episode 13 will be the biggest
game from Japan.Surely, a special commemoraive Ps3 is needed to make
the game bigger??
What, like this one you mean...?
Flathead Screen
I'm with you all the way here. Like you, my once eating sushi has given me a vast insight into those living 14000 lightyears miles away. I too noticed that when Genshi was released it was really a training module for ninjas and after many years of folowing the way I can now kill anyone with my thumb.
I too noticed the signs of growing strength of the Yakuza in many companies (the new Toyota 'Drive By' is a subtle clue) and saw the release of the new PS3 as the triumphant statement of domination within Eastern society.
Everyone knows that there are 10,000 bosses within the gokudo and that the issue of the new PS3 mirrors the fact that 10,000 secret units have been issued to them as recognition of their status.
What many people don't realize is that failure of the bosses to complete drug& prostitution targets now results in only their HDMI s being severed - many believe this could result in a weakeing of discipline within the ranks and allow the Korean contingent whch is already disproportionately high to grow in power.
What hasn't been mentioned with the release of the new Yakusa 3 is that the failure to beat a boss at the end of each level results in a knock at the door, the presentation of a hankie and a knife and then your little pinkie is gone. Too many failures and you cannot play anymore. Selection of the fittest at at it's best I think.
Thankyou Flat Screen and keep up the good work.
Mushi mushy pea
I'm with you all the way here. Like you, my once eating sushi has given me a vast insight into those living 14000 lightyears miles away. I too noticed that when Genshi was released it was really a training module for ninjas and after many years of folowing the way I can now kill anyone with my thumb.
I too noticed the signs of growing strength of the Yakuza in many companies (the new Toyota 'Drive By' is a subtle clue) and saw the release of the new PS3 as the triumphant statement of domination within Eastern society.
Everyone knows that there are 10,000 bosses within the gokudo and that the issue of the new PS3 mirrors the fact that 10,000 secret units have been issued to them as recognition of their status.
What many people don't realize is that failure of the bosses to complete drug& prostitution targets now results in only their HDMI s being severed - many believe this could result in a weakeing of discipline within the ranks and allow the Korean contingent whch is already disproportionately high to grow in power.
What hasn't been mentioned with the release of the new Yakusa 3 is that the failure to beat a boss at the end of each level results in a knock at the door, the presentation of a hankie and a knife and then your little pinkie is gone. Too many failures and you cannot play anymore. Selection of the fittest at at it's best I think.
Thankyou Flat Screen and keep up the good work.
Mushi mushy pea
matthewpiano
Well-known member
Ridiculous, offensive, mostly unintelligible, and with no grounding at all in any real knowledge or understanding...
Yes, Flatscreen. I'm talking about your posts on this thread.
You are making something out of nothing. Playstation (its run as a seperate entity within the overall Sony Corp by the way)have clearly made a commercial decision to capitalise on the release of a game which is expected to be popular. Its all part of being a business and making strategic moves to make as much money as possible. Nothing more, and nothing less.
The pie in the sky dreaming, which virtually amounts to some sort of conspiracy theory, only suggests that you have nothing better to do with your time.
The subtle insults to the Japanese are quite another. You are effectively accusing a nation of being completely tied up in crime and corruption. A nation of hard working people who have given us some of the best consumer electronics and cars, and some of the most interesting culture of any country in the world. I have never been to Japan. I hope I will one day but I have the utmost respect for them as a people.
Quoting the co-founder of Sony Corp in your signature really doesn't sit comfortably with the content of your posts. Mr Morita helped to found a company based on striving for the best and representing Japan in a positive light.
He was a man with immense credibility.
Yes, Flatscreen. I'm talking about your posts on this thread.
You are making something out of nothing. Playstation (its run as a seperate entity within the overall Sony Corp by the way)have clearly made a commercial decision to capitalise on the release of a game which is expected to be popular. Its all part of being a business and making strategic moves to make as much money as possible. Nothing more, and nothing less.
The pie in the sky dreaming, which virtually amounts to some sort of conspiracy theory, only suggests that you have nothing better to do with your time.
The subtle insults to the Japanese are quite another. You are effectively accusing a nation of being completely tied up in crime and corruption. A nation of hard working people who have given us some of the best consumer electronics and cars, and some of the most interesting culture of any country in the world. I have never been to Japan. I hope I will one day but I have the utmost respect for them as a people.
Quoting the co-founder of Sony Corp in your signature really doesn't sit comfortably with the content of your posts. Mr Morita helped to found a company based on striving for the best and representing Japan in a positive light.
He was a man with immense credibility.
FLATSCREEN: Other forces were at work to make the special Ps3 possible.Its unseen and subtle.
Clearly not that subtle if you, with your tremendous capacity for insight, have managed to detect it.
Clearly not that subtle if you, with your tremendous capacity for insight, have managed to detect it.
FLATSCREEN:Who was it who told Sony, don't waste time trying to make a transistor radio?? Westerners. Who was it that that Honda that there is no point in setting up Honda when there are lots of America cars to import! You get my jist? I worship this country!! The Yakuza is a integral part of Japan. A society that isn't as transparent as the West. Yes can mean No and good news is often spoken in sadness so not to offend those less fortunate. A society with a very sopjistocated langauge that goes beyond word, takes a life time to grasp with all its subtle nusances in pronouciation......my experience .....as complex as coded messages.
However, it doesn't mean everyone is a signed up member of the Yazuka. There is a very powerrful symbolism to the Yakusa, only the emperor's seal -16 petal chrysanthemum - says more.
Sony could sell the Yak' PS3 without the game Sega made....the symbolism of the tatooed console is potent enough. If the Yakuza wanted to advertise itself it would do perfectly in that PS3. You need to live in Japan to sense all this....not everything can be grasped with words...langauge is a limited tool
As we often say in the izakaya after a few too many Asahi Super Dries, borrocks.
Superficial borrocks at that.
And talking of limited tools...
However, it doesn't mean everyone is a signed up member of the Yazuka. There is a very powerrful symbolism to the Yakusa, only the emperor's seal -16 petal chrysanthemum - says more.
Sony could sell the Yak' PS3 without the game Sega made....the symbolism of the tatooed console is potent enough. If the Yakuza wanted to advertise itself it would do perfectly in that PS3. You need to live in Japan to sense all this....not everything can be grasped with words...langauge is a limited tool
As we often say in the izakaya after a few too many Asahi Super Dries, borrocks.
Superficial borrocks at that.
And talking of limited tools...
FLATSCREEN: A society with a very sopjistocated langauge that goes beyond word, takes a life time to grasp with all its subtle nusances in pronouciation......my experience .....as complex as coded messages.
Sony could sell the Yak' PS3 without the game Sega made....the symbolism of the tatooed console is potent enough. If the Yakuza wanted to advertise itself it would do perfectly in that PS3. You need to live in Japan to sense all this....not everything can be grasped with words...langauge is a limited tool
1) So what you're saying is that the Japanese are so taken with the Yakuza that anything with its symbol would sell very well. I may have to open a Yakuza specialty store over there and watch the money roll in.
2) You're contradicting yourself. In your first post you pointed out that the design was an indication of the power the Yakuza had over the electronics industry, now you say IF. Make up your mind!
3) Finally we agree. In fact with your words almost nothing can be grasped.
Sony could sell the Yak' PS3 without the game Sega made....the symbolism of the tatooed console is potent enough. If the Yakuza wanted to advertise itself it would do perfectly in that PS3. You need to live in Japan to sense all this....not everything can be grasped with words...langauge is a limited tool
1) So what you're saying is that the Japanese are so taken with the Yakuza that anything with its symbol would sell very well. I may have to open a Yakuza specialty store over there and watch the money roll in.
2) You're contradicting yourself. In your first post you pointed out that the design was an indication of the power the Yakuza had over the electronics industry, now you say IF. Make up your mind!
3) Finally we agree. In fact with your words almost nothing can be grasped.
matthewpiano
Well-known member
FLATSCREEN:
I overcooked the distance between Japan and the Uk, its infact 5,814 miles. A mistake there. Your point Matthew is the most nonesensical response.I admire Japan, this great nation grew from destruction to a formidable power till around 1989. You wouldn't be selling anything Sony if men of vision didn't come forth and made their mark? You'll be in Comet or Curries selling Sumsungs.
Who was it who told Sony, don't waste time trying to make a transistor radio?? Westerners. Who was it that that Honda that there is no point in setting up Honda when there are lots of America cars to import! You get my jist? I worship this country!! The Yakuza is a integral part of Japan. A society that isn't as transparent as the West. Yes can mean No and good news is often spoken in sadness so not to offend those less fortunate. A society with a very sopjistocated langauge that goes beyond word, takes a life time to grasp with all its subtle nusances in pronouciation......my experience .....as complex as coded messages.
However, it doesn't mean everyone is a signed up member of the Yazuka. There is a very powerrful symbolism to the Yakusa, only the emperor's seal -16 petal chrysanthemum - says more.
Sony could sell the Yak' PS3 without the game Sega made....the symbolism of the tatooed console is potent enough. If the Yakuza wanted to advertise itself it would do perfectly in that PS3. You need to live in Japan to sense all this....not everything can be grasped with words...langauge is a limited tool
Sorry but I can't stop laughing. You are accusing me of being nonsensical????!!!!
If you believe the Yakusa PS3 is about anything other than making money and providing a product for a receptive market, you have very little understanding of the way in which a company like Sony works.
By the way, I wouldn't be working in either of the places you mention. I work in a Sony Centre because I believe in the product and am able to feel proud of the customer service we offer.
Language is a powerful tool in the hands of somebody who knows how to use it.
I overcooked the distance between Japan and the Uk, its infact 5,814 miles. A mistake there. Your point Matthew is the most nonesensical response.I admire Japan, this great nation grew from destruction to a formidable power till around 1989. You wouldn't be selling anything Sony if men of vision didn't come forth and made their mark? You'll be in Comet or Curries selling Sumsungs.
Who was it who told Sony, don't waste time trying to make a transistor radio?? Westerners. Who was it that that Honda that there is no point in setting up Honda when there are lots of America cars to import! You get my jist? I worship this country!! The Yakuza is a integral part of Japan. A society that isn't as transparent as the West. Yes can mean No and good news is often spoken in sadness so not to offend those less fortunate. A society with a very sopjistocated langauge that goes beyond word, takes a life time to grasp with all its subtle nusances in pronouciation......my experience .....as complex as coded messages.
However, it doesn't mean everyone is a signed up member of the Yazuka. There is a very powerrful symbolism to the Yakusa, only the emperor's seal -16 petal chrysanthemum - says more.
Sony could sell the Yak' PS3 without the game Sega made....the symbolism of the tatooed console is potent enough. If the Yakuza wanted to advertise itself it would do perfectly in that PS3. You need to live in Japan to sense all this....not everything can be grasped with words...langauge is a limited tool
Sorry but I can't stop laughing. You are accusing me of being nonsensical????!!!!
If you believe the Yakusa PS3 is about anything other than making money and providing a product for a receptive market, you have very little understanding of the way in which a company like Sony works.
By the way, I wouldn't be working in either of the places you mention. I work in a Sony Centre because I believe in the product and am able to feel proud of the customer service we offer.
Language is a powerful tool in the hands of somebody who knows how to use it.
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