so sorry, last time honest!

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i have bought the kef 2005.3 speakers.

i want the qed aniversary xt speaker cable.

my rears will be 3m away and the fronts and centre under 1m away.

so i will need around 9m of this speaker cable and then i just cut the appropriate lengths correct so far?

i then think i need plugs as well,

so i then get 2 plugs for each end(banana plugs right)

so i will need a totl of ten interconnectors to put on the speaker cble,one end to receiver one end to speaker.

sorry to keep going over this but its not as easy as you guys make it out to be!!

 

[VoodooDoctor]

You don't have to use banana plugs. Some people advocate their use, others don't. More convenient if you are going to unplug the cables frequently but not essential. Add a bit of extra into your cable measurements to allow for making mistakes.

 

[Gerrardasnails]

thehoss:
i have bought the kef 2005.3 speakers.

i want the qed aniversary xt speaker cable.

my rears will be 3m away and the fronts and centre under 1m away.

so i will need around 9m of this speaker cable and then i just cut the appropriate lengths correct so far?

i then think i need plugs as well,

so i then get 2 plugs for each end(banana plugs right)

so i will need a totl of ten interconnectors to put on the speaker cble,one end to receiver one end to speaker.

sorry to keep going over this but its not as easy as you guys make it out to be!!

You don't have to use banana plugs but yes a plug for the positive and negative on each end of each length of cable. You could look on ebay, there is a shop which has a 3m pair of Chord Carnival for £60 (with plugs all done). You could use this as a guide so you know what you are doing with the other lengths. The same shop will sell you another 3m of the same cable and you can buy some cheaper plugs elsewhere.

 

[Anonymous]

so if i get like 12m in length then im jamming?

ok but how do i connect the speakers to the receiver without plugs?

if i get 12m cable and cut it into strips it will be bare wire.

 

[VoodooDoctor]

Both the amp and the speakers will have posts that hold the cable by screwing down tight onto it.

 

[Anonymous]

thanks to all for you replies!

i now know about speaker cables and sub cables!

i also need an optical for sky hd but that shouldnt be a problem.

thanks again.

 

[Dave_]

thehoss:

i have bought the kef 2005.3 speakers.

i want the qed aniversary xt speaker cable.

my rears will be 3m away and the fronts and centre under 1m away.

so i will need around 9m of this speaker cable and then i just cut the appropriate lengths correct so far?

i then think i need plugs as well,

so i then get 2 plugs for each end(banana plugs right)

so i will need a totl of ten interconnectors to put on the speaker cble,one end to receiver one end to speaker.

sorry to keep going over this but its not as easy as you guys make it out to be!!

its actually 20 banana plugs your need, you've got 5 cables, so thats 2 each end of the cable so 4 per cable x 5 cables

edit- if you are going to go down banana plug route you could take a look at these or even these, if you want to keep costs down.

 

[Anonymous]

thats good math dave!

i think i will go down the banana plug route just for decent connections.

man this surround sound game is expensive!

thanks again to everyone

 

[Dave_]

certainly is, take a look at them links though certainly a cheaper option than the qed airlocks. i've used both types and found them to be pretty good

 

[Anonymous]

so ebay can be trusted?

and do you reckon a banana plus is a banana plug no matter the manufacturer?

cause 5pounds for 20 is much better than 5pounds for 2!

plus surely its the cable that matters, as said before i could use the bare wire to connect anyway so it wouldnt hurt to try with the plugs and without.

 

[Dave_]

yeah a banana plug is a banana plug as far as i'm concerned. if there is any difference in sound quality between those i've linked to and the qed's i;ve never noticed it.the main reason is for convenience,its far easier just to plug/unplug a banana plug than messing on with bare wire. so yesthe cable is more important imo.

i've never had any problems using ebay personally, if you do buy anything off there just be sure that the seller has a good feedback rating and you should be ok.

oh,and the other benefit of using those type of bananas is if you ever decide to change your cables they can be re-used as they just clamp the cable. where as the qed's are crimped on,so once there on,there on and cant be re-used

 

[bigblue235]

I dunno, to me it seems a little pointless to buy decent speaker cable and terminate it with cheap plugs

If you were buying cheap cable, or weren't a believer in cables making a difference, then I'd say go with the cheap plugs. But you seem to be keen on the benefits of better cable, so I think you should really apply the same philosophy to the plugs. If you're paying extra for better cables to carry the signal, why then make it pass though poor quality plugs?

I just use bare wire myself, and re-do them every now and then. Takes about 10 mins to re-do the whole set.

 

[Ravey Gravey Davy]

thehoss:

i have bought the kef 2005.3 speakers.

i want the qed aniversary xt speaker cable.

my rears will be 3m away and the fronts and centre under 1m away.

so i will need around 9m of this speaker cable and then i just cut the appropriate lengths correct so far?

i then think i need plugs as well,

so i then get 2 plugs for each end(banana plugs right)

so i will need a totl of ten interconnectors to put on the speaker cble,one end to receiver one end to speaker.

sorry to keep going over this but its not as easy as you guys make it out to be!

Hoss- one thing to remember about the Kef eggs is that whether you can physically use banana plugs into the speaker depends on how you are setting them up in your room. If you are wall mounting any of them it is an absolute dog to get a banana plug on and get onto the wall mount-there simply is not enough space behind especially if you are angling them on the swivel mount. Bookshelf or stands are fine but not wall mount for bananas.Hold it against the wall -you will soon see (although the 2005.3 do have an improved mount over the .2 version I stilll think its tight.)

 

[Gerrardasnails]

bigblue235:
I dunno, to me it seems a little pointless to buy decent speaker cable and terminate it with cheap plugs

If you were buying cheap cable, or weren't a believer in cables making a difference, then I'd say go with the cheap plugs. But you seem to be keen on the benefits of better cable, so I think you should really apply the same philosophy to the plugs. If you're paying extra for better cables to carry the signal, why then make it pass though poor quality plugs?

I just use bare wire myself, and re-do them every now and then. Takes about 10 mins to re-do the whole set.

The cheap plugs tend to be lightweight and well, cheap looking. Some of them with screw sets don't seem to screw as tight as the more expensive ones. However, there is no difference to the sound. I've played with doing my own and at the moment mine are all made up professionally. The bonus for the latter is if you want to upgrade, you can sell the made up ones easier that ones you've done yourself. I would seriously go for Chord speaker cable over QED any day as well.

 

[Anonymous]

all this info is great!

i think i may just get one end with plugs on it and go bare wire for the speaker end,as its screw in the connection should be ok i think.

and i will look into the chord speaker cable as well.

long as it doesnt blow a hole in my budget im ok with it!

just spent 160 quid on the speaker stands! honest i think i may be a muppet! but i will look good! keep telling myself that anyway!

got my sony 550 through today just waiting on the sony 2400es and its time to get this thing hooked up!

so look out for more questions in the coming days!!

thanks again

 

[Gerrardasnails]

thehoss:
all this info is great!

i think i may just get one end with plugs on it and go bare wire for the speaker end,as its screw in the connection should be ok i think.

and i will look into the chord speaker cable as well.

long as it doesnt blow a hole in my budget im ok with it!

just spent 160 quid on the speaker stands! honest i think i may be a muppet! but i will look good! keep telling myself that anyway!

got my sony 550 through today just waiting on the sony 2400es and its time to get this thing hooked up!

so look out for more questions in the coming days!!

thanks again

You are going to love it!!!

 

[Gerrardasnails]

Gerrardasnails:thehoss:
all this info is great!

i think i may just get one end with plugs on it and go bare wire for the speaker end,as its screw in the connection should be ok i think.

and i will look into the chord speaker cable as well.

long as it doesnt blow a hole in my budget im ok with it!

just spent 160 quid on the speaker stands! honest i think i may be a muppet! but i will look good! keep telling myself that anyway!

got my sony 550 through today just waiting on the sony 2400es and its time to get this thing hooked up!

so look out for more questions in the coming days!!

thanks again

You are going to love it!!!

There is a shop on ebay selling the Chord Carnival for £79.95 for a 5m pair. They are terminated both ends so you could cut your rear lengths from each one of say 3.5m each and it will give you plugs at one end for each and leave you with two 1.5m lengths with plugs at one end each. The same shop sells the cable off the reel at £5.49 per metre. You could then add a metre length for your centre speaker and you would just need two plugs to get and fit yourself.

The shop is well known and recommended and it's online shop is a little dearer than the ebay one. Oh, they deliver for free too!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=350105395603&Category=116853&_trksid=p3907.m29

 

[bigblue235]

Gerrardasnails:The cheap plugs tend to be lightweight and well, cheap looking. Some of them with screw sets don't seem to screw as tight as the more expensive ones. However, there is no difference to the sound.

Hmmm, I dunno

If you were of the persuasion that cables made no difference, then I could see why you'd think plugs made no difference. But both the OP and your good self seem to be cable 'believers'. So, if the signal carried along the cable is affected by being conducted through it, then surely the same must apply to the plug?

My local dealer, despite stocking various plugs, always rants on about connecting with bare wire, as he says it's the purest way to do things. I kinda see where he's coming from. Or maybe I've just been studying the Ecosse site too much, with all their various terminations

 

[Gerrardasnails]

bigblue235:
Gerrardasnails:The cheap plugs tend to be lightweight and well, cheap looking. Some of them with screw sets don't seem to screw as tight as the more expensive ones. However, there is no difference to the sound.

Hmmm, I dunno

If you were of the persuasion that cables made no difference, then I could see why you'd think plugs made no difference. But both the OP and your good self seem to be cable 'believers'. So, if the signal carried along the cable is affected by being conducted through it, then surely the same must apply to the plug?

My local dealer, despite stocking various plugs, always rants on about connecting with bare wire, as he says it's the purest way to do things. I kinda see where he's coming from. Or maybe I've just been studying the Ecosse site too much, with all their various terminations

I see where you are coming from; however, if the signal gets to the plug and it hits metal, Bob's your uncle. I can't see how it helps if the metal is platinum, silver, gold or whatever. Maybe I just don't know enough about physics.

 

[SpiceWeasel]

I used some cheap banana plugs as it would of been almost impossible to get all the speaker cables into the back of my Denon 5.1 amp without the risk of shorting them out. I use Chord Carnival Silver Plus speaker cables, fronts are bi-wired and tbh the plugs where a bit thin. So it was a bit of a mare trying to get bi-wire speaker cable into 1 plug, but they just managed to squeeze in.

Some better quality plugs probably would of made the job a bit easier, but mine do the job and are gold plated. Deffinately a damm site easier to plug in your cables though.