SHB Coherence I/Cs...

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2wenty2welve:
raym87, I suspect you are somehow affiliated with a cable manufacturer. How could you dare make comments against a product without having tried them? Regarding your comment about SHB's short production runs. Most hyper priced cable manufacturers can produce 1000's or maybe a million pairs in other words MASS-PRODUCED and the consequence is that most of them sounds rubbish BUT EXPENSIVE. I would rather go for cables that are NOT MASS-PRODUCED and NOT HYPER/RIP OFF PRICED but sounds EXCELLENT. I have used high-end cables and wasted loads of money until a mate recommended SHB. Having lost my job months ago with a meagre upgrade allowance I decided to try them. I now have a total of 4 SHB IC pairs and a pair of speaker cables. I have sent some of my previous cables back to my brother in the U.S. and asked my mate to sell rest on fleabay. As I have said before - I'm glad I tried them.

MASS-PRODUCED v SHORT PRODUCTION RUNS

You suspect wrong.....

Where have I made comments against the SHB cables......Maybe if you took the time to read my posts you will see that at no time have I done so......My comments were made exclusively on the method of production, not the cables themselves. However...as an example and not at all related, havent you ever just looked at something, anything really and decided you didnt like it. Didnt have to buy it to decide, just took a dislike to it?

I'm happy that you are happy with your chioce, its just not my choice for the reasons mentioned.
 
raym87, I respect your preference for MASS-PRODUCED/EXPENSIVE products where sound quality can be compromised than LIMITED EDITIONS that are priced right and sounds VERY TRANSPARENT & DETAILED.

As promised - my A/B comparison between the SHB S2i's and Coherence LE's as tested on my ancient signature

I find it hard to compare these 2 ICs as they are both very detailed and transparent. I sometimes close my eyes when listening and to my ears they sound like I have spent a fortune on them. I have owned Nordost Blue Heaven, Chord Crimson and Chameleon, Crystal Cables, Audioquest Sidewinder all are highly-rated by hifi mag reviwers but IMHO the SHB reduced them all to dust. With both SHB ICs I have been hearing tiny details that I haven't heard before, the crashing cymbals sounds awesome as if there's a live band playing in my living room and most importantly the guitar and cymbal decay sounding more real.

The difference between these SHB IC's - the Coherence LE's are more detailed and transparent with a real bass slam. Depending on the type of music you're playing (I listen to almost all genre except classical), the difference could be subtle to very obvious. That's why it took me ages to post my findings as I have to wait until both ICs are fully burnt-in. For the price of both ICs, I think they are the best bargains I had come across in the land of fleabay. Certainly worth every single penny plus a bit more.

For those few who said that they are bright-sounding, there maybe something wrong about your equipment matching but surely nothing wrong with the cables at all. I won't change the SHB's as nothing can match them sonically even 20-30 times their price against those highly reviewed ICs.

I will be posting my findings on the SHB 10awg speaker cable when they have reached their recommended burn-in period.

MASS-PRODUCED CABLES v SHORT PRODUCTION RUNS
 
2wenty2welve:
raym87, I suspect you are somehow affiliated with a cable manufacturer. How could you dare make comments against a product without having tried them? Hmmm! Call me cynical,but 8 post's and all about SHB cables, and 2 of them accusing people of being affiliated with cable manufacturer's,just because they're sceptical of SHB cable's.

Sure you're not affiliated with anyone?
 
daveh75, No, I'm definitely not but I don't think it is right to post negative comments about a product(s) that you haven't tried. It raised some suspicion that those people are just paranoid about reading positive comments about some cables that can potentionally harm the sales of the cables that they are affiliated with. Personally, I would never dare to post any negative comment(s) about a product that I haven't tried and I would rather own something that only a few people have than those owned by another 2 or 3 million people.

MASS-PRODUCED/OVER PRICED v SHORT PRODUCTION RUNS/BUDGET PRICED
 
igglebert, Chord Chameleon's seems broken? That's the consequence of being mass-produced. Somebody out there posted being concerned about the SHB cables' short production runs. Personally, I would rather own something that only a few people have than those owned by another 2-3 million people.

MASS-PRODUCED/HYPER-PRICED v SHORT PRODUCTION RUNS/BUDGET PRICED
 
robborollover, It's a no-brainer, your signature is not exactly the same as chainrock's so why do you have to insist about the SHB's brightness?

MASS-PRODUCED/HYPER PRICED v SHORT PRODUCTION RUNS/BUDGET PRICED
 
idc, haven't you noticed those so-called high-end cable manufacturer's having up to 10-20 IC models at a time and all are MASS-PRODUCED? It is a matter of personal preference but I would rather own something that only a few people have that those owned by another 10-20 million people.

MASS PRODUCED/HYPER PRICED v LIMITED PRODUCTION RUNS/BUDGET PRICED
 
Bring back the Gotham thread.
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There's something really dodgy going on with this thread. This line in itself, even if the poster had ever posted about anything else, is pretty indicative of someone who works for/is SHB. How much more blatant can it get? MASS PRODUCED/HYPER PRICED v LIMITED PRODUCTION RUNS/BUDGET PRICED
 
JoelSim:There's something really dodgy going on with this thread.

I tend to get the same feeling joel,lets sit back and wait,but i sense at the very least a thread lock on the horizon, we will see eh.
 
2wenty2welve:...I would rather own something that only a few people have than those owned by another 2 or 3 million people.

I doubt very much that even the Chord company could ever boast sales of 'millions' of their interconnects and I have seen video clips of at least some of their products being handmade so 'mass-produced' is possibly a bit wide of the mark too.

I have ordered 'bespoke' lengths and connection combinations from Chord - on the phone - and been told they will have them 'made up' and despatched for me the same day. It certainly did not sound like some vast impersonal enterprise that are only concerned with spitting out millions of mass - produced, overpriced items.

Given how very few people - as a percentage of the adult population - have any regard for buying good/specialist hifi at all, and how few of them (as a subset of a subset) give much thought to choosing speciality cables at all, then you are already down to a relatively tiny market which has to be shared by ALL the hifi cable companies.

"2 or 3 million people" when talking about the likes of Chord products is sheer hyperbole.
 
If it turns out that 2wenty2welve is SHB in disguise, then I for one will be very disappointed and will not entertain the purchase of any SHB cables as a matter of principle.
 
What the film-makers did not show was the secret new £3Billion fully automated, underground, cable plant in Taiwan that has been developed by Chord to replace 'Simon' and his work-bench and to gain world domination of the specialist hifi cable market.
 
chebby:What the film-makers did not show was the secret new £3Billion fully automated, underground, cable plant in Taiwan that has been developed by Chord to replace 'Simon' and his work-bench and to gain world domination of the specialist hifi cable market.

Yes, the queue of punters already stretches from Birmingham down to Maidstone
 
think we are being sidetracked here
bottom line .... are there better interconnects for cheaper? ... hope not, as I have ordered a pair and will be ordering some of his speaker cable later today

most comments that I have read have been favourable ... couple that to an unconditional full refund if you are unhappy with the product ... seems good to me?
 
2wenty2welve:

idc, haven't you noticed those so-called high-end cable manufacturer's having up to 10-20 IC models at a time and all are MASS-PRODUCED?

Define mass produced by the so called high end manufacturers. The video Chebby posted of Simon at Chord is hardly mass production. Neither is Russ Andrews, as everytime I have ordered anything I have had to wait for it to be made up and I can specify lengths and connections. I think mass production applies to bell wire, plastic heat shrink terminated interconnects for Tesco mini systems. Not the so called high end manufacturers.

2wenty2welve:

It is a matter of personal preference but I would rather own something that only a few people have that those owned by another 10-20 million people.

I would rather own a cable that is well made and sounds good. Its source, be it a one man setup, small company like Russ Andrews or a major manufacturer like Oehlbach is immaterial to me.

2wenty2welve:

MASS PRODUCED/HYPER PRICED v LIMITED PRODUCTION RUNS/BUDGET PRICED

That versus is not an absolute as you are trying to suggest by shouting it out very loudly. It can also be mass produced/budget v limited production runs/hyper priced and I would suggest that the latter is a more accurate description of the whole cable market.
 
I doubt the guy banging on about SHBs is associated with the company. He's doing more harm than good to them. Just another internet oddball probably.
 
I already have a pair of Synergy and Synergy2 and have received my Coherence LE on Tuesday. I'm using between the V-DAC and a cheap Rega Ear for my AKG K701. Honestly I could't hear much difference between Synergy and Synergy2, but the Coherence is a different story: I'm not into technical stuff and I don't know much about silver and copper, etc etc, but to my ears the Coherence is completely transparent and a better match than the Synergy in my system. I can say that Coherence doesn't sound, it's just the music! It seems to have more weight in lower frequencies, or probably the mid-bass is more pronounced, while the treble is more natural: the cymbals sound better now than with the Synergy, no signs of harshness (and the Rega Ear is quite bright). The soundstage, is not as huge as with Synergy but still wide. Overall Coherence is a good improvement over the Synergy, definitely a keeper...waiting the next creation :-D
 
Nice review realmassey. I just went onto ebay to see how much the Coherence ICs are and found the Metaphor instead starting at £18.90 including postage
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IDC, I sent an email to Will (ebay seller) asking for another pair with different connectors and he said that all is left is one pair only (and I can't see any listing). I think the Metaphor is quite similar to the Synergy, so if you already have one pair I would not bother to try it
 
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