Samsung ue65hu7500 should I buy or not ?

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With hdr update confirmed finally for the EG960 it is a very tempting proposition as my next upgrade...I would not have jumped into the Oled harem too early on 1080p.It is 'a fling' more than a marriage.Eventually the yearnings for 4k would be too strong...etc. Avforum's 4k Oled owners thread shows disdain with screen issues with this Oled model.One 'Andyz' had reportedly returning a 55 inch model for a 65 inch JS9000 instead.Yes indeed.

Many say that for the asking oled price it must be perfect.It aren't yet. So you see why I would not go there when others aren't happy. My Sony Wedge LED with dynamic extender contrast will suffice given the mitigating issues.

The EG960 is no way worth £3800, more like £2000. There is a cheaper one coming too. I would hold off until you can get HDR too and a decent price. Then people say that 65- inches is the only suitable size for 4K, so waiting for them to come down to £3000 would only interest me. They are currently way over priced. I wouldn't worry too much about what people on the forum say about them, I would purchase from John Lewis and decide for yourself. If you don't like them then send it back.

 

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With hdr update confirmed finally for the EG960 it is a very tempting proposition as my next upgrade...I would not have jumped into the Oled harem too early on 1080p.It is 'a fling' more than a marriage.Eventually the yearnings for 4k would be too strong...etc.
Avforum's 4k Oled owners thread shows disdain with screen issues with this Oled model.One 'Andyz' had reportedly returning a 55 inch model for a 65 inch JS9000 instead.Yes indeed.

Many say that for the asking oled price it must be perfect.It aren't yet with QC issues and luck.
So you see why I would not go there when others aren't happy.
My Sony Wedge LED with dynamic extender contrast will suffice given the mitigating issues

I like the upscaling of 1080p content that 'looks 4k' and the Sony onboard Upscaler that does a great job most of the time and the Triluminous colours from digi_cams playback.
No, I couldn't live with plasmas unless they did 4k....now anyway.
That leaves Oled as the one side fits all for all viewing needs.

 

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If 65 inch is a staple TV diet then going down to 55 is like going on a detox diet.Many just can't do it.The bigger the better which is aways true with TV 4k or beyond.Cinematic...
What I am seeing is that people would chose a 65inch JS 9000 over a 55 inch oled.That been a trade off deemed as acceptable. Price is forcing this trade off and before long it becomes the normal.

 

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The 55 inch model gets a haircut discount.Lucky Americans....

Nothing here....the TVs are getting cheaper but not in the UK??

 

[Series1boy]

With hdr update confirmed finally for the EG960 it is a very tempting proposition as my next upgrade...I would not have jumped into the Oled harem too early on 1080p.It is 'a fling' more than a marriage.Eventually the yearnings for 4k would be too strong...etc. Avforum's 4k Oled owners thread shows disdain with screen issues with this Oled model.One 'Andyz' had reportedly returning a 55 inch model for a 65 inch JS9000 instead.Yes indeed.

Many say that for the asking oled price it must be perfect.It aren't yet with QC issues and luck. So you see why I would not go there when others aren't happy. My Sony Wedge LED with dynamic extender contrast will suffice given the mitigating issues

I like the upscaling of 1080p content that 'looks 4k' and the Sony onboard Upscaler that does a great job most of the time and the Triluminous colours from digi_cams playback. No, I couldn't live with plasmas unless they did 4k....now anyway. That leaves Oled as the one side fits all for all viewing needs.

so you don't own an OLED because there are loads of complaints and issues with them? Your point about plasma is flawed then apart from they are no more. You make no sense at all in anything you are say...

 

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so you don't own an OLED because there are loads of complaints and issues with them? Your point about plasma is flawed then apart from they are no more. You make no sense at all in anything you are say...

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Did I really say....'there are loads of complaints and issues with OLED TV' Or is that how you twisted it to make it sound like that?Naughty.

You seem to want to deliberately misquote me blindly in saying OLED 'has flaws' like plasmas...not quite in the same league...you need to look at the facts.

4K OLED TV current most concerning problems as reported is one of a quality control issue....and production yield.....not a technical issue with the technology of the self emissive display itself.It could be paper thin,curved and (even transparent). Given the time LG's OLED has been..batting at the crease....it deserves more time to sort out as the other TV technology have had to fix itself.Samsung/Sony has production issues with their RGB OLED but does that make their OLED technology flawed?

OLED is not a flawed techology for TV.....no one has called it that.Production issues does not equal to flaws.... Let us set the record striaght.

BUT.....LED and Plasma have deeper inherent issues...flaws.... which requires substantial fixes if at all possible and keeping cost down.

By the way, not every LG OLED model produced has the screen issues( I have not said there are even more issues!) so it is case of getting a golden sample 'review' model,but that should not be the case[/u] as consistence in production improves.

Neither LED or plasmas will ever get over its fundamental flaws.Plasma simply couldn't do new tricks beyond what there is to meet new viewing demands....so it is even more deeply flawed.....it basically had an expiry date like the fall of a historical empire.....great things and entities just don't demise, it evolve and transform itself like MAN...

LEDs or OLED.They can even be better than what they are now.

 

[bigboss]

There's lot more than meets the eye.

The peak of plasma technology coincided with the economic crisis. Check what 10th generation Kuro could achieve before Pioneer exited the market. Panasonic didn't have enough money, and Samsung / LG concentrated more on LED rather than plasma.

Don't forget that like OLED, even plasma was capable of each pixel creating its own light. So clouding and uneven brightness was not an issue. Also, plasma had inherently superior refresh rates.

Yes, it could not meet the current demands, mainly because research into it dried up (and not because plasma had reached the peak of its capability).

 

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Oled pixels could switch itself completely off....'infinity black'. Plasma phosphorus pixel still emitted some measurable light.(Geoff Morrison,Cnet USA)This impacts on contrast.Oled is superior and perfect in that respect....PDP the runners up.
Shrinking the PDP phosphorus to meet 4,6,8k would not be feasibly possible.
Carbon footprint became unacceptable in plasmas.

Now, the recession did kill lots of demand but we have seen it many times before but things would always pick up.But the time was really up for PDP.Recession only give it a nudge over the cliff.
LCD started on a massive wobble....an underdog I would admit....as a viable for big screen entertainment but by nutures dictate, it would evolve itself.Remarkable as unlike Oled, it didn't get a sliver spoon to start life off.

There are still silverware in a particular plasma trophy cabinet.
Let us say that The Kuro is a Legendary PDP like a Jaguar E type car.
Who knows what the 11th or 15th PDP gen' would have cooked up.We will never know......maybe they will declassify the research data one day.
But I can't quite put the Panasonics near it except the ZX.Imitations.

 

[Series1boy]

There's lot more than meets the eye.

The peak of plasma technology coincided with the economic crisis. Check what 10th generation Kuro could achieve before Pioneer exited the market. Panasonic didn't have enough money, and Samsung / LG concentrated more on LED rather than plasma.

Don't forget that like OLED, even plasma was capable of each pixel creating its own light. So clouding and uneven brightness was not an issue. Also, plasma had inherently superior refresh rates.

Yes, it could not meet the current demands, mainly because research into it dried up (and not because plasma had reached the peak of its capability).

you are wasting your time with him big brother.

I don't have a problem with OLED but it's not for me now. Until OLED has ironed out its problems I will then think about upgrading, but I'm currently happy with my plasma. I may even buy a projector next..

he seems to want to continue slagging plasma down and saying it's dead. It is, but there are plenty of people who still have top end plasmas and pretty much new ones as you do and I..

it makes me laugh when he keeps going on about how wanderful OLED is, when he doesnt own 1..

i would prefer informed comments rather than your plasma is dead...

 

[bigboss]

Plasma pixels could completely turn off as well. The way plasma panels are constructed causes a small amount of ambient light to be refracted out to the viewer. No doubt OLED is superior in this. But we have to see if the lifespan of an OLED panel is good enough. Only time will tell.

By the way, VT65 was released in 2013, not 2011.

 

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you are wasting your time with him big brother.

I don't have a problem with OLED but it's not for me now. Until OLED has ironed out its problems I will then think about upgrading, but I'm currently happy with my plasma. I may even buy a projector next..

he seems to want to continue slagging plasma down and saying it's dead. It is, but there are plenty of people who still have top end plasmas and pretty much new ones as you do and I..

it makes me laugh when he keeps going on about how wanderful OLED is, when he doesnt own 1..

i would prefer informed comments rather than your plasma is dead...

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Let me understand you correctly....

You are saying you are interested in an upgrade in OLED TV when the problems[/u] are ironed out? Then you ask me why I have not brought one despite praising it.(Making you laugh} You have infact answered your own question! Joker. You expect me to buy one with the problems as you say above when you wouldn't.....very funny.So I am telling you why i have not brought one with your own answer.

Errr....I have not slagged of plasma TV....please quote what I have said that is construed as ...slagging off plasma....? I like to know. You want informed comments. Well, that comes from facts. BB quotes facts in his respond. But I have not read anything you have written that has any informed facts.It is your opinion.

Strangely, you also say you have.... 'new plasma' as others do, what does that mean?? What is new about the Panasonic plasma VT65 you have? It was released in 2013.(updated).2 gen' behind.....smile

I don't suffer from fools gladly and vice versa.

 

[Series1boy]

Plasma pixels could completely turn off as well. The way plasma panels are constructed causes a small amount of ambient light to be refracted out to the viewer. No doubt OLED is superior in this. But we have to see if the lifespan of an OLED panel is good enough. Only time will tell.

By the way, VT65 was released in 2013, not 2011.

i purchased my VT in December 2014, so it's pretty much modern and still in warranty.