Sounded the Rega Apollo R really better than the Marantz cd 6005? And in which way? Or can i go better with the Marantz SA-8005? Yes; the Naim cd5si must be very good. But i hate Naim and also find it too expensive.
matthewpiano said:No problems.
The Apollo-R doesn't really sound much like most CD players. It sounds more like a good turntable. In fact, my two sources sound very similar to each other. Both present the music in a way which pulls me in and neither gets in the way. That is how the Apollo-R is different to most other CD players.
matthewpiano said:No problems.
The Apollo-R doesn't really sound much like most CD players. It sounds more like a good turntable. In fact, my two sources sound very similar to each other. Both present the music in a way which pulls me in and neither gets in the way. That is how the Apollo-R is different to most other CD players.
davedotco said:matthewpiano said:No problems.
The Apollo-R doesn't really sound much like most CD players. It sounds more like a good turntable. In fact, my two sources sound very similar to each other. Both present the music in a way which pulls me in and neither gets in the way. That is how the Apollo-R is different to most other CD players.
You are on the money here, the Apollo-R has been carefully and very successfully voiced to sound similar to Rega's record players. They both have a warm, rather lush sound that many people like.
If you were cynical, you might say that Rega had no choice in this, they chose to compensate for the rather dark presentation of their record players with sprightly, slightly bright sounding amps and speakers, so then of course, had to voice their budget CD player accordingly.
plastic penguin said:davedotco said:matthewpiano said:No problems.
The Apollo-R doesn't really sound much like most CD players. It sounds more like a good turntable. In fact, my two sources sound very similar to each other. Both present the music in a way which pulls me in and neither gets in the way. That is how the Apollo-R is different to most other CD players.
You are on the money here, the Apollo-R has been carefully and very successfully voiced to sound similar to Rega's record players. They both have a warm, rather lush sound that many people like.
If you were cynical, you might say that Rega had no choice in this, they chose to compensate for the rather dark presentation of their record players with sprightly, slightly bright sounding amps and speakers, so then of course, had to voice their budget CD player accordingly.
Easy chaps. I totally understand what you're saying, and agree that some CDPs veer towards a analogue sound. However, by definition, a cd - digitally produced - can only be pushed so far before it sounds a little out of kilter...
Agree that Rega, Arcam, older Exposure and some valve-based CDPs sound more analoguey than a Cyrus or Naim. Personally I'm always careful with making these comparisons, as some individuals may misconstrude it as "CDP that sounds like vinyl".
davedotco said:plastic penguin said:davedotco said:matthewpiano said:No problems.
The Apollo-R doesn't really sound much like most CD players. It sounds more like a good turntable. In fact, my two sources sound very similar to each other. Both present the music in a way which pulls me in and neither gets in the way. That is how the Apollo-R is different to most other CD players.
You are on the money here, the Apollo-R has been carefully and very successfully voiced to sound similar to Rega's record players. They both have a warm, rather lush sound that many people like.
If you were cynical, you might say that Rega had no choice in this, they chose to compensate for the rather dark presentation of their record players with sprightly, slightly bright sounding amps and speakers, so then of course, had to voice their budget CD player accordingly.
Easy chaps. I totally understand what you're saying, and agree that some CDPs veer towards a analogue sound. However, by definition, a cd - digitally produced - can only be pushed so far before it sounds a little out of kilter...
Agree that Rega, Arcam, older Exposure and some valve-based CDPs sound more analoguey than a Cyrus or Naim. Personally I'm always careful with making these comparisons, as some individuals may misconstrude it as "CDP that sounds like vinyl".
It is usually just tweaking of the analog output circuit to voice the sound as required, hence valve output stages.
It is difficult if not impossible to mess with the dac chip, and different filters do not usually make a huge difference so it is done in the analog electronics.
Of course it does not sound like vinyl but the Apollo has been deliberately given a sound signature that does not jar with the establised sound of Rega's record players, that is all.
peterpan said:
Easy chaps. I totally understand what you're saying, and agree that some CDPs veer towards a analogue sound. However, by definition, a cd - digitally produced - can only be pushed so far before it sounds a little out of kilter...
Agree that Rega, Arcam, older Exposure and some valve-based CDPs sound more analoguey than a Cyrus or Naim. Personally I'm always careful with making these comparisons, as some individuals may misconstrude it as "CDP that sounds like vinyl".
peterpan said:PP; i can't listen to the Exposure 3010S2. It hurt my ears. Too bright. My old Denon amp, 30 years old!, sounds finer. Warmer en female voices sounded fine. With the Exposure it seems like a digital artifact.
That's why i'm interesting in the Arcam A39. I hope it is next week by the dealer. Then i can listen to it. Today Denon is already on the bright side.
peterpan said:PP; my speakers are Kef R500. Formidable speakers. I'm looking at a amp which sounds warm, not too forward but also not boring with my (metal) music. In the past Arcam was on the warm side, but also a little boring. But maybe the new A39 is different.
peterpan said:I have looked at the Lyngdorf tdai 2170. Not heard with my speakers. Seems a very interesting amp. But owners reported that it gives a honestly sound and let hear the quality of the CD. And with bad records.....
peterpan said:Yes.