MajorFubar
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Not sure why it was originally taken off. Surely to attract the biggest potential market you want to be boasting that your new product can plait sawdust, not take existing features away. But what do I know.
Joe Cox said:
professorhat said:Joe Cox said:
No great loss there...
landzw said:Lots of reports appearing on the big wide web of overheating and freezing issues concerning the PS4
professorhat said:A Sony representative has provided the following statement to IGN:
"A handful of people have reported issues with their PlayStation 4 systems. This is within our expectations for a new product introduction, and the vast majority of PS4 feedback has been overwhelmingly positive. We are closely monitoring for additional reports, but we think these are isolated incidents and are on track for a great launch.
There have been several problems reported, which leads us to believe there isn’t a singular problem that could impact a broader percentage of systems. The number of affected systems represents less than .4% of shipped units to date, which is within our expectations for a new product introduction."
AnotherJoe said:professorhat said:A Sony representative has provided the following statement to IGN:
"A handful of people have reported issues with their PlayStation 4 systems. This is within our expectations for a new product introduction, and the vast majority of PS4 feedback has been overwhelmingly positive. We are closely monitoring for additional reports, but we think these are isolated incidents and are on track for a great launch.
There have been several problems reported, which leads us to believe there isn’t a singular problem that could impact a broader percentage of systems. The number of affected systems represents less than .4% of shipped units to date, which is within our expectations for a new product introduction."
You can always trust IGN to mess things up. Its 0.04% not 0.4%.
So for 1million consoles it would be 400 consoles with the problem. So 999,600 are fine.
AnotherJoe said:landzw said:Lots of reports appearing on the big wide web of overheating and freezing issues concerning the PS4
You have a link for that?
All I've seen is an hdmi issue affecting 0.04% of consoles which Sony say is within acceptable limits for a news console.
landzw said:Just Google it, there are now alot of people talking about it on other forums and a few reviews have picked up on it and there is also a clip on youtube, even the PS4 manual comes a section concerning overheating ( which is something that should not be happening )
manicm said:And the Xbox One seems likely to be the superior general media hub.
professorhat said:manicm said:And the Xbox One seems likely to be the superior general media hub.
As long as you're happy to pay yearly for an Xbox Gold membership to access any of the online services of course. Give it 6 months and I reckon PS4 will support CD, MP3 and DLNA playback through firmware updates and, apart from being able to access your PVR through your PS4, will pretty much be in line with Xbox One, plus with the ability to access all the online services without a PS Plus subscription.
manicm said:Don't fool yourself in anyway that Sony is looking out for the consumer any more than Microsoft.
So as far as fleecing the consumer goes - they both get the EDITED medal.
professorhat said:manicm said:Don't fool yourself in anyway that Sony is looking out for the consumer any more than Microsoft.
So as far as fleecing the consumer goes - they both get the EDITED medal.
Not fooling myself at all - both are looking out for the consumer as much as possible whilst still maximising their profits - not looking out for the consumer is extremely bad for business and Sony and Microsoft are pretty good at listening to their customers. Neither are "fleecing the consumer" - they offer a product for a price and those that are happy to pay and feel they are getting value for money will do so. Those that don't, won't.
However, none of this changes my original point in that, considering the Xbox One purely as a media hub (i.e. ignoring the gaming side), you really need to take account of the Xbox Gold Live fee on top of any other subscriptions. With the PS4, you don't need this. Will many people pay for the subscriptions despite this in order to get online gaming? Yes, probably and especially those buying Day One. However, as per the PS3, many may purchase one of the consoles when they come down in price mostly for media playback, and they may well be surprised (and quite miffed) to find out they have to pay for this subscription to get online streaming services with the Xbox One if they haven't researched it properly.