Playing a SACD through my Audiolab 6000A play

[Factualist]

Hello

I have a Sony ubp-x800m2 and a Audiolab 6000A Play . I'd like to hear a SACD through my AL amp in 2.0 channel form, I know the SACD only outputs through HDMI and the AL doesn't have that input, so any ideas of how this would be possible? Would I need some adaptor? I know the internal DAC in the AL can handle DSD audio.

Thanks

 

[twinkletoes]

Hello

I have a Sony ubp-x800m2 and a Audiolab 6000A Play . I'd like to hear a SACD through my AL amp in 2.0 channel form, I know the SACD only outputs through HDMI and the AL doesn't have that input, so any ideas of how this would be possible? Would I need some adaptor? I know the internal DAC in the AL can handle DSD audio.

Thanks

Well, really the 800m2 I believe is basically a transport, if I remember correctly it doesn't have an internal dac.
So you' ll need an outboard dac with an HDMI input as fair as im aware there are no converters.

If you're just playing about and having a bit of fun a second hand AVR will be the cheapest solution loads on ebay for around the 100/200 quid mark if not cheaper. Something like an Anthem 300mrx would be good shout and may actually sound better than you audiolab (just saying) absolute belter of an amp.

 

[Factualist]

Well, really the 800m2 I believe is basically a transport, if I remember correctly it doesn't have an internal dac.
So you' ll need an outboard dac with an HDMI input as fair as im aware there are no converters.

If you're just playing about and having a bit of fun a second hand AVR will be the cheapest solution loads on ebay for around the 100/200 quid mark if not cheaper. Something like an Anthem 300mrx would be good shout and may actually sound better than you audiolab (just saying) absolute belter of an amp.

Thanks, thought as much - a bit pricey the options available, and I have an internal DAC already and an old CA DacMagic 100, so I think a third DAC would be excessive especially as I wanted to box down my equipment.

 

[Al ears]

Well, really the 800m2 I believe is basically a transport, if I remember correctly it doesn't have an internal dac.
So you' ll need an outboard dac with an HDMI input as fair as im aware there are no converters.

If you're just playing about and having a bit of fun a second hand AVR will be the cheapest solution loads on ebay for around the 100/200 quid mark if not cheaper. Something like an Anthem 300mrx would be good shout and may actually sound better than you audiolab (just saying) absolute belter of an amp.

Yes, it has a digital output but this will not send DSD data from SACD disc.
both devices would require an I2S interface to transmit PCM data and not many have this facility, I can think only of PS Audio amplifiers

 

[twinkletoes]

Thanks, thought as much - a bit pricey the options available, and I have an internal DAC already and an old CA DacMagic 100, so I think a third DAC would be excessive especially as I wanted to box down my equipment.

You could try old sacd dvd players like that from pioneer, 20-50quid they output over coax I believe. Think the 565a is the model number. Probably not full fat but would give you the flavour

It’s adding boxes but the cheapest way

 

[Sixtyten]

Might be worth checking out this thread over on the Steve Hoffman forums, But, the easiest way as already mentioned is to buy a a cheap second hand Sony Blu ray player. I'd recommend a Sony BDP-S490 or a Sony BDP-S570 (I own both), because of their....er "flexibility"

 

[Al ears]

Might be worth checking out this thread over on the Steve Hoffman forums, But, the easiest way as already mentioned is to buy a a cheap second hand Sony Blu ray player. I'd recommend a Sony BDP-S490 or a Sony BDP-S570 (I own both), because of their....er "flexibility"

He has a Sony Bluray player.....

 

[Al ears]

Might be worth checking out this thread over on the Steve Hoffman forums, But, the easiest way as already mentioned is to buy a a cheap second hand Sony Blu ray player. I'd recommend a Sony BDP-S490 or a Sony BDP-S570 (I own both), because of their....er "flexibility"

This method will not output PCM unfortunately

You could try old sacd dvd players like that from pioneer, 20-50quid they output over coax I believe. Think the 565a is the model number. Probably not full fat but would give you the flavour

It’s adding boxes but the cheapest way

They will not output PCM from an SACD however.

 

[Sixtyten]

I think you're getting confused as to what I'm suggesting. By buying another cheap, second hand Sony blu-ray player, then all the original poster needs to do, is run a phono cable from the back of the stereo out of the said player and plug the other end into a spare analogue socket on the back of the 6000A. Cost? If the ebay gods are smiling less than £50.

I own a Sony UBP-800 MK2 so I know it's abilities and limitations. And about the hoops you have to jump through with SACD hence the suggestion. It's the option which requires the least amount of jumping. (I also own a now faulty Pioneer DV-565a, a Denon DBP-2012 (relegated to playing stereo SACD because I had to replace the entire power board when it went bang! when I turned it on one morning) , a Sony UHP-H1 (used in a bedroom system) and have used a Marantz DV-7001 (which was a bundle of rubbish as it clicked on track changes on SACDs) and Marantz -UD7007 (which did the same) , so I'm pretty familiar with SACD playback in all its glory)

 

[Al ears]

I think you're getting confused as to what I'm suggesting. By buying another cheap, second hand Sony blu-ray player, then all the original poster needs to do, is run a phono cable from the back of the stereo out of the said player and plug the other end into a spare analogue socket on the back of the 6000A. Cost? If the ebay gods are smiling less than £50.

I own a Sony UBP-800 MK2 so I know it's abilities and limitations. And about the hoops you have to jump through with SACD hence the suggestion. It's the option which requires the least amount of jumping. (I also own a now faulty Pioneer DV-565a, a Denon DBP-2012 (relegated to playing stereo SACD because I had to replace the entire power board when it went bang! when I turned it on one morning) , a Sony UHP-H1 (used in a bedroom system) and have used a Marantz DV-7001 (which was a bundle of rubbish as it clicked on track changes on SACDs) and Marantz -UD7007 (which did the same) , so I'm pretty familiar with SACD playback in all its glory)

Is it not then simply outputting the CD layer of said disc in stereo?

 

[Factualist]

I think you're getting confused as to what I'm suggesting. By buying another cheap, second hand Sony blu-ray player, then all the original poster needs to do, is run a phono cable from the back of the stereo out of the said player and plug the other end into a spare analogue socket on the back of the 6000A. Cost? If the ebay gods are smiling less than £50.

I own a Sony UBP-800 MK2 so I know it's abilities and limitations. And about the hoops you have to jump through with SACD hence the suggestion. It's the option which requires the least amount of jumping. (I also own a now faulty Pioneer DV-565a, a Denon DBP-2012 (relegated to playing stereo SACD because I had to replace the entire power board when it went bang! when I turned it on one morning) , a Sony UHP-H1 (used in a bedroom system) and have used a Marantz DV-7001 (which was a bundle of rubbish as it clicked on track changes on SACDs) and Marantz -UD7007 (which did the same) , so I'm pretty familiar with SACD playback in all its glory)

Thanks, I think that is the solution, by a cpaable dvd player with SACD output via RCA, so much for reducing boxes!

 

[Sixtyten]

Thanks, I think that is the solution, by a cpaable dvd player with SACD output via RCA, so much for reducing boxes!

Couple things to note; if you buy either of the Sony players I've suggested is that there is a remote control clash with your UDP-800MK2. They all use the same RC5 codes. Doesn't bother me because they are different rooms. Second, you need to set the player to default to the SACD layer and then tell it to default to the Stereo / 2 channel rather than the 5.1 option - as below

Then, Bob is your mother's brother.

 

[Sixtyten]

Is it not then simply outputting the CD layer of said disc in stereo?

Not if you set it to use the SACD layer of the disc.

 

[daytona600]

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[Rodolfo]

I use a Yamaha DVD-S1800 to play SACDs, and especially CDs. It sounds so sweet regardless of what I play on it. It is installed in my 2-channel-always system and has only played music disks including DVD-A. The S1800 is equipped with 4 Burr-Brown processors for audio. It is connected to one of the analogue inputs on my Rotel A12 integrated.

I also have one of the also-flexible Sony units: the BDP-S580, I think like those discussed above, in that it plays SACDs, etc., though I've only used that in a video setup. It also plays beautifully, but the serious limitation for me, for audio, is that the displays on the ones I've seen, including mine, are quite minimal, indeed useless, again, for me -and I don't even need glasses at my advanced age, thankfully, on both counts. For video, it doesn't matter because I mostly just view the tv screen, use the remote, and do not need to be monitoring any track nor other info on the player.

Both units are 10-15 years old, have never balked, and the Sony especially has put in Many hours. I recommend both strongly.