Pioneer amps with THX ultra 2 plus

[Deleted member 2457]

I never knew Pioneer stopped producing THX ultra 2 plus amps with the Pioneer sc-lx88. The Pioneer sc-lx87 seems to be the last one that had it!

 

[buzz_lightclick]

I never knew Pioneer stopped producing THX ultra 2 plus amps with the Pioneer sc-lx88. The Pioneer sc-lx87 seems to be the last one that had it!

That is correct (mentioned on another thread over the weekend). Atmos came in with the 88 but THX went out, presumably a cost saving measure?

 

[Frank Harvey]

I would guess so.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

And now they are going to cost £2500!

 

[bigboss]

And now they are going to cost £2500!

That's because it has extra 2 channels of amplification (11 channels) in comparison to its flagship predecessor (9 channels in LX89).

Also, Onkyo's TX-NR3030 with 11 channels of amplification was the same price. Onkyo will ensure that Pioneer does not undercut its offering.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

And now they are going to cost £2500!

That's because it has extra 2 channels of amplification (11 channels) in comparison to its flagship predecessor (9 channels in LX89).

Also, Onkyo's TX-NR3030 with 11 channels of amplification was the same price. Onkyo will ensure that Pioneer does not undercut its offering.

Cheers.

Does the Onkyo have THX ultra 2 plus?

 

[bigboss]

Onkyos are THX Select 2 certified.

Previous model:
http://www.uk.onkyo.com/en/products/tx-nr3030-117903.html

New model:
http://www.uk.onkyo.com/en/products/tx-rz3100-132671.html

Bear in mind that for THX to work, every single component in the chain (blu ray player, AV receiver, speakers and TV) need to be THX certified as far as I'm aware.

 

[bigboss]

Onkyos are THX Select 2 certified.

Previous model:
http://www.uk.onkyo.com/en/products/tx-nr3030-117903.html

New model:
http://www.uk.onkyo.com/en/products/tx-rz3100-132671.html

Bear in mind that for THX to work, every single component in the chain (blu ray player, AV receiver, speakers and TV) need to be THX certified as far as I'm aware.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Onkyos are THX Select 2 certified.

Previous model: http://www.uk.onkyo.com/en/products/tx-nr3030-117903.html

New model: http://www.uk.onkyo.com/en/products/tx-rz3100-132671.html

Bear in mind that for THX to work, every single component in the chain (blu ray player, AV receiver, speakers and TV) need to be THX certified as far as I'm aware.

Really?

 

[Deleted member 2457]

I thought it guaranteed the amp was made to a high standard too?

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Is there any manufacturer left that does THX ultra 2 plus then? Cheers.

 

[spiny norman]

Bear in mind that for THX to work, every single component in the chain (blu ray player, AV receiver, speakers and TV) need to be THX certified as far as I'm aware.

Really?

Yup, and you have to play really loud to reach the reference level required.

The spec requires 85dB at '0' volume setting on a THX Ultra receiver, with 20dB of dynamic headroom. For those who are forced to play at lower level (such as most of us not viewing in a soundproof bunker), THX Loudness Plus is built in to compensate for detail, spatial information, etc lost when you dial the volume down.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Bear in mind that for THX to work, every single component in the chain (blu ray player, AV receiver, speakers and TV) need to be THX certified as far as I'm aware.

Really?

Yup, and you have to play really loud to reach the reference level required.

The spec requires 85dB at '0' volume setting on a THX Ultra receiver, with 20dB of dynamic headroom. For those who are forced to play at lower level (such as most of us not viewing in a soundproof bunker), THX Loudness Plus is built in to compensate for detail, spatial information, etc lost when you dial the volume down.

 

[bigboss]

I thought it guaranteed the amp was made to a high standard too?  

No, it doesn't. It simply means that it meets THX specifications which Spiny Norman alludes to.

 

[bigboss]

Is there any manufacturer left that does THX ultra 2 plus then?  Cheers.  

Ultra2 is for very large rooms (3000 cubic feet, or 30' X 10' with a 10' ceiling).

http://www.thx.com/consumer/home-entertainment/home-theater/thx-certification-performance-categories/

 

[bigboss]

Just to give you an idea of the size of the speakers that meets THX Ultra2 specification:

 

[spiny norman]

No, it doesn't. It simply means that it meets THX specifications which Spiny Norman alludes to.

The cynic (who, me?) might say that it just means the manufacturer has paid THX to test and certify the product, and whatever ongoing licence fees may be involved.

That's not to say there aren't products out there that don't meet or exceed the THX requirements, but the manufacturer chooses not to spend the money having them certified.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Is there any manufacturer left that does THX ultra 2 plus then? Cheers.

Ultra2 is for very large rooms (3000 cubic feet, or 30' X 10' with a 10' ceiling).

http://www.thx.com/consumer/home-entertainment/home-theater/thx-certific...

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Thanks BB.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Onkyo have just released an amp with THX ultra 2 plus on:

http://www.uk.onkyo.com/en/products/pr-rz5100-132641.html

I wonder what the price will be?

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Onkyo have just released an amp with THX ultra 2 plus on:

http://www.uk.onkyo.com/en/products/pr-rz5100-132641.html

I wonder what the price will be?

Looks like a beast of an amp:

http://www.uk.onkyo.com/downloads/3/0/1/1/7/ONKYO_PR-RZ5100_datasheet_EN.pdf

 

[Deleted member 2457]

£2500. Not too bad.

https://www.audiovisualonline.co.uk/product/32054/onkyo-pr-rz5100-black-11-2-channel-av-processor/

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Onkyo have just released an amp with THX ultra 2 plus on:

http://www.uk.onkyo.com/en/products/pr-rz5100-132641.html

I wonder what the price will be?

Looks like a beast of an amp:

http://www.uk.onkyo.com/downloads/3/0/1/1/7/ONKYO_PR-RZ5100_datasheet_EN.pdf

It only weighs 13.6kg! That can't be right, can it?

 

[Deleted member 2457]

This one weighs 19.7kg and it's a lesser spec:

http://www.uk.onkyo.com/downloads/3/0/1/2/3/ONKYO_TX-RZ3100_datasheet_EN.pdf

Weird, anyone know why? Is the top spec one a pre amp or something?

 

[Frank Harvey]

Onkyo have just released an amp with THX ultra 2 plus on:

http://www.uk.onkyo.com/en/products/pr-rz5100-132641.html

I wonder what the price will be?

Looks like a beast of an amp:

http://www.uk.onkyo.com/downloads/3/0/1/1/7/ONKYO_PR-RZ5100_datasheet_EN.pdf

It only weighs 13.6kg! That can't be right, can it?

That's a pre/processor 🙂