Panasonic DMP-BD85 or Pioneer BDP 320 or anything else???

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I have a budget of £300-400 for a new blueray player for my new 50v20 (on order) and have been looking at these two current models which can be found for a bargain prices. I am not overally fussed abouth whether is connect to youtube etc etc....all i want is the best picture and audio quality my money can buy....If you can recommend any other player this would be greatly appreciated.

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R.Welhi
 
The £300 - £400 budget would also include the Sony BDP-S760 based on their original retail price.

However, as alienRIK has rightly pointed out, the Sony S370 recently beat both the Panasonic DMP-BD85 and Sony BDP-S760 (reduced this to 4 ****) in a supertest to emerge winner.

I have one myself and am astounded by the picture and sound quality. I would urge you to consider this.
 
well...i have a DMP-BD85, and it is a fantastic Blu-Ray player. The Sony BDP-S370 is also supposedly good, don't know about the Pioneer though. Depends what you are looking for in a Blu-Ray player? If you want the very best picture, the Sony edges it, however the Panasonic is sonically more capable.
 
I will have a look at this but my concern is that with a 50" screen (50v20) that a player this cheap will not do it justice.....if you can understand where i am coming from. Although lookin at the reviews i am very interested of what this player has achieved but would like other people with largers screens to recommend their thoughts due to already being in the situation i am in and see what works for them. Even if i have to add an extra £400-500 although would rather keep it lower for more blue-rays.....i am a student after all 🙂
 
ramzijw:I will have a look at this but my concern is that with a 50" screen (50v20) that a player this cheap will not do it justice.....if you can understand where i am coming from. Although lookin at the reviews i am very interested of what this player has achieved but would like other people with largers screens to recommend their thoughts due to already being in the situation i am in and see what works for them. Even if i have to add an extra £400-500 although would rather keep it lower for more blue-rays.....i am a student after all 🙂

Costlier players do not automatically equate to better picture quality. I've got a 50-inch Kuro, & have a £150 Panasonic BD60. Absolutely superb! The S370 is an excellent player. The beauty of HD technology is that, for pure 1080/24p video playback, you will struggle to notice a difference between blu-ray players. Amazon has a returns policy if you don't like your player.

Demo the players yourself to lay any doubts you may have.
 
hey big boss, i understand what you are saying but im also wanting the best souund quality i can get due to the system running through my denon 2310 and B&W 685 theatre...sorry for being a pain :S
 
All down to personal taste really.

Personally I prefer the colour palette, sound and operation of the Panasonics. The Sony was just trying to impress too much with artificially lurid colours and in your face sound rather than the subtelties of the Panasonic IMO.

The BD 85 is a fantastic machine and I can heartily recommend it, I also run through a 2310
 
True Blue: The Sony was just trying to impress too much with artificially lurid colours and in your face sound rather than the subtelties of the Panasonic IMO.

I've never heard of this in any of the reviews I've read so far. How can a blu-ray player create "artificially lurid colours"?? Also, why would you allow your blu-ray player to decode audio when you've got the fantastic Denon 2310???

If you allow your Denon to decode audio, then you shouldn't be worried about how the player decodes audio. Your Denon receiver will do the job better than any blu-ray player IMHO.

If you still want your player to decode audio, the S370 excels here as well. According to WHF review:

"The 'S370's talents extend to sound performance, too. The Sony edges out other players for outright resolution, but of greater significance is that it provides a wonderfully balanced, focused sound.

Whether listening to Faithless on SACD or the Gorillaz on CD, the Sony's extra insight and excellent timing ensures you're thoroughly entertained."

If you still want to spend more, then look at Panasonic BD85 as True Blue suggests, as well as Cambridge Audio 650BD which excels in the sound department, or the Sony S570 with IP Content Noise Reduction and Built-in 1GB Memory. Or wait until the Sony S770 is launched....which should be very soon.
 
True Blue:
The Sony was just trying to impress too much with artificially lurid colours

When I used a meter to calibrate my tv using the S370, it had the exact same settings as both my PS3 and my Pioneer dvd player. Theres nothing artifical about the colours
 
bigboss:
True Blue: The Sony was just trying to impress too much with artificially lurid colours and in your face sound rather than the subtelties of the Panasonic IMO.

I've never heard of this in any of the reviews I've read so far. How can a blu-ray player create "artificially lurid colours"?? Also, why would you allow your blu-ray player to decode audio when you've got the fantastic Denon 2310???

If you allow your Denon to decode audio, then you shouldn't be worried about how the player decodes audio. Your Denon receiver will do the job better than any blu-ray player IMHO.

If you still want your player to decode audio, the S370 excels here as well. According to WHF review:

"The 'S370's talents extend to sound performance, too. The Sony edges out other players for outright resolution, but of greater significance is that it provides a wonderfully balanced, focused sound.

Whether listening to Faithless on SACD or the Gorillaz on CD, the Sony's extra insight and excellent timing ensures you're thoroughly entertained."


If you still want to spend more, then look at Panasonic BD85 as True Blue suggests, as well as Cambridge Audio 650BD which excels in the sound department, or the Sony S570 with IP Content Noise Reduction and Built-in 1GB Memory. Or wait until the Sony S770 is launched....which should be very soon.

Bigboss, as I said above it was IMO. I dont like the colours etc produced by the Sony to my eyes the Panasonic just looks more natural, less forced. Have you seen the two players? I was at the big question with various BRP's and yes they do all have their own personal interpretation of the information on the disc both sonically and visually.

I do bitstream to my Denon 2310. When I initially bought the BD85 it replace my BD35 into a denon 1909, everytihng had more clarity, both the visuals and the audio. Different transport, better components etc etc did produce noticable difference, even when bitstreaming.
 
aliEnRIK:True Blue:
The Sony was just trying to impress too much with artificially lurid colours

When I used a meter to calibrate my tv using the S370, it had the exact same settings as both my PS3 and my Pioneer dvd player. Theres nothing artifical about the colours

aliEnRIK, have you actually SEEN the BD85?? As I said in my opinion, to my eyes I do not like the colour palette of the Sony, same way as CDP's can sound different so too can BRP visually as well.

I auditiond both back to back and paid the extra for the Panasonic. The only Sony that I have ever been impressed with is the 5500es (i think) the £1000 one.
 
True Blue: Have you seen the two players?

Yes, I have seen the Panasonic BD65, BD85 & Sony S370 together & compared them back to back.

True Blue: Different transport, better components etc etc did produce noticable difference, even when bitstreaming

I respect your opinion, but I personally don't believe that because I haven't noticed any difference. I'll look forward to the Big Question. Which month is it coming?
 
True Blue:aliEnRIK:True Blue:
The Sony was just trying to impress too much with artificially lurid colours

When I used a meter to calibrate my tv using the S370, it had the exact same settings as both my PS3 and my Pioneer dvd player. Theres nothing artifical about the colours

aliEnRIK, have you actually SEEN the BD85?? As I said in my opinion, to my eyes I do not like the colour palette of the Sony, same way as CDP's can sound different so too can BRP visually as well.

I auditiond both back to back and paid the extra for the Panasonic. The only Sony that I have ever been impressed with is the 5500es (i think) the £1000 one.

I havnt seen it no.

But that cant discount the fact ive measured the actual colours with a meter. You cant get anymore accurate than that. The Sony plays discs (At least the colours) EXACTLY as it should

In fact im a little confused actually as I believe the Sony doesnt use any filters at all. What you see is whats on the disc as is (Warts and all). I find it interesting that you prefer the dearer sony which DOES filter before sending information. So maybe its simply due to the Pan filtering the picture out that you like more (Just a guess, im unsure if either players do to be honest)
 
Bigboss, Rik,

Strange old world eh? one mans heaven anothers hell. Maybe it is the filtering I prefer, who knows. The big question has unfortunately been and gone, few months ago now.

All in all its up to the OP to decide by viewing. I chose the Panny, many will choose the Sony.
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True Blue:
Bigboss, Rik,

Strange old world eh? one mans heaven anothers hell. Maybe it is the filtering I prefer, who knows. The big question has unfortunately been and gone, few months ago now.

All in all its up to the OP to decide by viewing. I chose the Panny, many will choose the Sony.
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Ive no problem with what you choose. I only questioned your statement when you said it changes the colours when it really doesnt

Each to their own, but unless the source is horrible, id much rather have a player (cd, dvd or whatever) that sends information exactly as it should (Or upscales very well in the case of a dvd player). I dont like filtering of any type generally speaking
 
I've myself got a Panasonic (BD60). As said by aliEnRIK, we all have our personal choices & preferences. My only objection was when you said that the Sony alters the colour artificially.

Whatever the OP decides in the end, it will be a good choice. All the options given so far are very good.
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The Sony BD player looks cheap though if that's of any concern to you? It would be to me. But I suppose for the price Sony had to make a compromise somewhere. Go for the Pioneer, much better quality for not much more price (on fleebay for £160-£190)
 

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