maxflinn:yes just 3d gel ...
I seem to recall reading that the plasma cells are different (i.e. bit faster) on the VT20....?
I seem to recall reading that the plasma cells are different (i.e. bit faster) on the VT20....?
yes , to help with 3d performance , especially with motion , but the v20 is fine with the normal cells by all accounts , motion is very good , so i didnt bother mentioning it .. might just confuse things
Thanks for the responses
Just a general question why are Panasonics cheaper than other brands?
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Just a general question why are Panasonics cheaper than other brands?
Thanks
I got my VT20 last week.
I loved 3d at the cinema....I loved 3d in the pub.....I even loved it in the shop.
At home with time to look at it in detail - I wouldnt bother its just not worth wearing the glasses, I was bored with the sky feed after 10 minutes and the set is just so good at 2D that you wont want to compromise the beautiful picture - from absolute advocate of 3D to total sceptic
The V20 looks an absolute storming deal
John
I loved 3d at the cinema....I loved 3d in the pub.....I even loved it in the shop.
At home with time to look at it in detail - I wouldnt bother its just not worth wearing the glasses, I was bored with the sky feed after 10 minutes and the set is just so good at 2D that you wont want to compromise the beautiful picture - from absolute advocate of 3D to total sceptic
The V20 looks an absolute storming deal
John
gel:
Thanks for the responses
Just a general question why are Panasonics cheaper than other brands?
Thanks
good question gel , ive often wondered that myself , they are quality tvs , and afaik lcds are cheaper to make than plasmas too , so shouldnt they be cheaper
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Thanks for the responses
Just a general question why are Panasonics cheaper than other brands?
Thanks
good question gel , ive often wondered that myself , they are quality tvs , and afaik lcds are cheaper to make than plasmas too , so shouldnt they be cheaper
johnb1966:
I got my VT20 last week.
I loved 3d at the cinema....I loved 3d in the pub.....I even loved it in the shop.
At home with time to look at it in detail - I wouldnt bother its just not worth wearing the glasses, I was bored with the sky feed after 10 minutes and the set is just so good at 2D that you wont want to compromise the beautiful picture - from absolute advocate of 3D to total sceptic
The V20 looks an absolute storming deal
John
Great post
I got my VT20 last week.
I loved 3d at the cinema....I loved 3d in the pub.....I even loved it in the shop.
At home with time to look at it in detail - I wouldnt bother its just not worth wearing the glasses, I was bored with the sky feed after 10 minutes and the set is just so good at 2D that you wont want to compromise the beautiful picture - from absolute advocate of 3D to total sceptic
The V20 looks an absolute storming deal
John
Great post
maxflinn:gel:
Thanks for the responses
Just a general question why are Panasonics cheaper than other brands?
Thanks
good question gel , ive often wondered that myself , they are quality tvs , and afaik lcds are cheaper to make than plasmas too , so shouldnt they be cheaper
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Also Panasonics appear to me that they are getting cheaper each year, where other brands have reached a (can't think of the word) ummmm a consistent price lets say?
Is is just sound in the tv they are compromising in doing so? ie by doing so i mean getting cheaper.
Thanks
Thanks for the responses
Just a general question why are Panasonics cheaper than other brands?
Thanks
good question gel , ive often wondered that myself , they are quality tvs , and afaik lcds are cheaper to make than plasmas too , so shouldnt they be cheaper
Also Panasonics appear to me that they are getting cheaper each year, where other brands have reached a (can't think of the word) ummmm a consistent price lets say?
Is is just sound in the tv they are compromising in doing so? ie by doing so i mean getting cheaper.
Thanks
no gel they are not compromising anything , sound is at least as good as the competition (philips 9 series apart) , better than all those ultra slim tvs out there too ..
im guessing , but id say that the plasma technology is just being refined every year , they are not changing all that much really , so are not having to spend a fortune to keep improving their tvs , and so can sell them for less , that would be my guess ..
im guessing , but id say that the plasma technology is just being refined every year , they are not changing all that much really , so are not having to spend a fortune to keep improving their tvs , and so can sell them for less , that would be my guess ..
maxflinn:
no gel they are not compromising anything , sound is at least as good as the competition (philips 9 series apart) , better than all those ultra slim tvs out there too ..
im guessing , but id say that the plasma technology is just being refined every year , they are not changing all that much really , so are not having to spend a fortune to keep improving their tvs , and so can sell them for less , that would be my guess ..
Thanks Max
no gel they are not compromising anything , sound is at least as good as the competition (philips 9 series apart) , better than all those ultra slim tvs out there too ..
im guessing , but id say that the plasma technology is just being refined every year , they are not changing all that much really , so are not having to spend a fortune to keep improving their tvs , and so can sell them for less , that would be my guess ..
Thanks Max
I have been reading alot about these two tvs and they say the only difference is that the VT20 has a faster phospher and 3D technology.
Any ideas what a "faster phospher" is?
Thanks
Any ideas what a "faster phospher" is?
Thanks
I have a 50V20 arriving next wednesday, I'm hoping its as good as the reviews state and doesn't suffer from any of the problems faced by other owners on a different forum
gel:Any ideas what a "faster phospher" is?
Presumably a faster-reacting phosphor formulation in the coating on the back of the plasma cells, which is excited by the ultraviolet light created by the plasma when the cell is charged.
The faster reaction is required for the rapid switching in 3D applications, but merely to say the TV has 'a faster phosphor', as you have read in those descriptions, is overly simplistic.
Presumably a faster-reacting phosphor formulation in the coating on the back of the plasma cells, which is excited by the ultraviolet light created by the plasma when the cell is charged.
The faster reaction is required for the rapid switching in 3D applications, but merely to say the TV has 'a faster phosphor', as you have read in those descriptions, is overly simplistic.
daveywavey18:I have a 50V20 arriving next wednesday, I'm hoping its as good as the reviews state and doesn't suffer from any of the problems faced by other owners on a different forum
Problems? I don't suppose you could mention what they are saying?
Thanks alot
Problems? I don't suppose you could mention what they are saying?
Thanks alot
Andrew Everard:
gel:Any ideas what a "faster phospher" is?
Presumably a faster-reacting phosphor formulation in the coating on the back of the plasma cells, which is excited by the ultraviolet light created by the plasma when the cell is charged.
The faster reaction is required for the rapid switching in 3D applications, but merely to say the TV has 'a faster phosphor', as you have read in those descriptions, is overly simplistic.
Do you think you would see a difference in a 2d picture between the 50V and the 50VT? or is it merely for the 3D pictures?
Thanks
gel:Any ideas what a "faster phospher" is?
Presumably a faster-reacting phosphor formulation in the coating on the back of the plasma cells, which is excited by the ultraviolet light created by the plasma when the cell is charged.
The faster reaction is required for the rapid switching in 3D applications, but merely to say the TV has 'a faster phosphor', as you have read in those descriptions, is overly simplistic.
Do you think you would see a difference in a 2d picture between the 50V and the 50VT? or is it merely for the 3D pictures?
Thanks
I'd like to give you an answer, but not having had the chance to compare the two screens for myself, I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave...
gel:
daveywavey18:I have a 50V20 arriving next wednesday, I'm hoping its as good as the reviews state and doesn't suffer from any of the problems faced by other owners on a different forum
Problems? I don't suppose you could mention what they are saying?
Thanks alot
Some owners have concerns over colour banding, floating blacks and noise from the televisions fan. However there are just as many owners who have not experienced any of these problems. Hope I'm one of them!
daveywavey18:I have a 50V20 arriving next wednesday, I'm hoping its as good as the reviews state and doesn't suffer from any of the problems faced by other owners on a different forum
Problems? I don't suppose you could mention what they are saying?
Thanks alot
Some owners have concerns over colour banding, floating blacks and noise from the televisions fan. However there are just as many owners who have not experienced any of these problems. Hope I'm one of them!
daveywavey18:gel:
daveywavey18:I have a 50V20 arriving next wednesday, I'm hoping its as good as the reviews state and doesn't suffer from any of the problems faced by other owners on a different forum
Problems? I don't suppose you could mention what they are saying?
Thanks alot
Some owners have concerns over colour banding, floating blacks and noise from the televisions fan. However there are just as many owners who have not experienced any of these problems. Hope I'm one of them!
Thanks for that
they don't sound anything too bad either.
Has anyone mentioned the screen given off abit of a flicker?
I noticed a flicker on the panasonic 42G20 the other day and i then noticed people were talking about this as well.
Thanks
daveywavey18:I have a 50V20 arriving next wednesday, I'm hoping its as good as the reviews state and doesn't suffer from any of the problems faced by other owners on a different forum
Problems? I don't suppose you could mention what they are saying?
Thanks alot
Some owners have concerns over colour banding, floating blacks and noise from the televisions fan. However there are just as many owners who have not experienced any of these problems. Hope I'm one of them!
Thanks for that
Has anyone mentioned the screen given off abit of a flicker?
I noticed a flicker on the panasonic 42G20 the other day and i then noticed people were talking about this as well.
Thanks
Andrew Everard:
gel:Any ideas what a "faster phospher" is?
Presumably a faster-reacting phosphor formulation in the coating on the back of the plasma cells, which is excited by the ultraviolet light created by the plasma when the cell is charged.
The faster reaction is required for the rapid switching in 3D applications, but merely to say the TV has 'a faster phosphor', as you have read in those descriptions, is overly simplistic.
Well, phosphor is element number 15. To say some phosphors are faster than others really makes no sense and of course is an over simplification.
I can't say for sure either, but Andrew is probably right that Panasonic might have applied another phosphor compound which behaves differently from the usual one (and this compound is synthesised, not formulated
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gel:Any ideas what a "faster phospher" is?
Presumably a faster-reacting phosphor formulation in the coating on the back of the plasma cells, which is excited by the ultraviolet light created by the plasma when the cell is charged.
The faster reaction is required for the rapid switching in 3D applications, but merely to say the TV has 'a faster phosphor', as you have read in those descriptions, is overly simplistic.
Well, phosphor is element number 15. To say some phosphors are faster than others really makes no sense and of course is an over simplification.
I can't say for sure either, but Andrew is probably right that Panasonic might have applied another phosphor compound which behaves differently from the usual one (and this compound is synthesised, not formulated
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