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Pad Swapping Amiron Homes (Dekoni Pads)

ThisIsJimmy

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Hello

As some of you aware, I've owned the Amiron Homes for a while now. These headphones have delivered disappointment in heartbreak since purchase. I have tried:

- EQ (from the music players such as JRIVER, Foobar 2000, Windows Media Player, Win AMP, Itunes
- EQ from Equaliser applications (Equalizer APO being the best)
- Running them in balanced
- Running through different audio devices (Creative EA5, Topping D90/A90 and Beyerdynamics own Impacto Universal)

I was on the verge of selling them, but on watching Zeos video on Pad swapping, I purchased Dekoni Beyerdyanmic pads: The Dekoni Choice Suede, Dekoni Choice Leather and Dekoni Elite Hybrids for my DT880s and MMX Gen IIs. Based on the surprising positive results in line with his review, I tested them on the Amiron Homes but with less stellar results as you will see below.

With my intention to own the DT1990 Pros into the near future, (and seeming abundancce of Beyer headphones in my collection), I have purchased the rest of the Dekoni Pads with the last throw of the dice to test these on the Amirons before selling them if this didn't work. As Beyers appear to respond to PAD swapping I still had hope. Below are the results that I'd like to share with you.

I tested this using my Topping A90 and Topping D90 running via USB. after testing Single Ended and Balanced, I got the best results using High Gain and a Balanced cable. Be warned though that these are High Sensitivity Headphones, so you will need to watch the volume.

Ratings explained:
No recommendation = worse than stock - don't buy
+ Offers a sound that's better than stock
++ Recommended purchase

Any bullet points with + or - indicate positive or negative specific feedback

Stock Pads (Valour)
  • Ok Dynamics and upper range imaging - suits pop and rock
  • Lacks sub base - low end bass is boosted for 'drum' kicks and high ends for 'cymbals'.
  • Although it's supposed to be a headphone based on Mids, The boosted bass has taken out the lower mids.
  • Highs suffer from sibilance, especially in high pitch female vocals
  • REOLs music painfully highlights this and imaging inconsistencies in the low and mid-ranges.
  • Reol good for testing as lots of complex dynamics and different instruments.
  • pads leak sound as the seal is not perfect against my ear, but they are comfortable though
  • As Zeos has said....the overall sound is very Barry White.

Elite Valour (The stock pads Beyerdynamic Should have used) +
  • High end not sibilant anymore and offers up more clarity and detail
  • Clearer defined Bass and lower mids than stock
  • Reol - Opening from No Title+ is handled without issues in imaging or dynamism which exposed the flaws of the stock pads
  • Tone slightly feels warmer,
  • The sound is relaxing...not harsh in the ears.
  • + Offers better isolation around the ears than stock and are comfortable to wear
  • + Imaging (might be because of the better isolation)
  • All the subtle improvements mean that the sound is no longer Barry White.
  • Whilst enjoyable, their are better pads here

Elite Sheepskin (For Rock/Pop...almost everything) ++
  • Bass is definitely much more present, and helps to give the sound a much weightier presence
  • Doesn't sound as clinical as the Elite Valours or Elite Fenestrated, but enjoyment benefits as a result
  • ++ Mids (at last). Lots more detail that isn't present in any of the other pads tested
  • Bass and low end mids just 'come alive'.
  • ++ Pop songs just 'pop'...much more so than before. Imaging just slaps you in the face! Rich and warm! Listening to Maroon 5, Linking Park, and Taylor Swift brought shivers down my spine.
  • + Musicality
  • ++ Soundstage has more theatre & great immersion. It's feeels and sounds like being at a live concert or gig
  • + Noticeable changes in sound pressure - listening to "Confession / past guilt" from Fate-Stay night [Unlimited Bladeworks] OST. The Atmosphere ripples and tantalises.
  • + I can now hear all the low mids-orchestra as well. Brought out nicely in Tyler Bates "Black Tears"
  • You have the musical reverberations, but they aren't disjointed like the Elite Hybrids. Some may find them to much.
  • ++ Enjoyment. I am subconsiously singing to songs without realising
  • + Comfortable to wear and good isolation around the ears
  • Not suitable for low bit-rate music or bad recordings. As you can hear much more, it exposes poorly ripped music or bad audio recordings
  • Be wary of volume for Dub Step or heavy drum and bass (due to Beyer Driver drum/bass tuning).

Elite Sheepskin Fenestrated (For Classical or flatter listening) ++
  • + Sounds are clean and clear. Highs are not as bright as stock or the Elite Valour
  • Lacks the theatre warmth and rich sound of the Elite Sheepskin
  • + Soundstage....but high and mid soundstage instead Low end 'enhanced' bass has been tamed.
  • Focused.
  • ++ imaging. Sounds bounce nicely.
  • Equalised? Volume is levelled, more neutral and flat. Mastering?? (Don't think it's that flat)
  • Exposes shoddy recordings and low bit-rate music
  • + Comfortable to wear and good isolation around the ears

Choice Suede (No recommendation)
  • - Delivery octave lower in comparison to elite Sheepskin
  • - Guitars sounds rough around the edges. Vocals might be clear
  • - Sound doesn't sound like it's breathing. Imaging not like the elite sheepskin
  • - Sounds are flat.
  • Whlst they work with the DT880s, it's not the same effect here.
  • + Comfortable to wear and good isolation around the ears
  • Work on the Beyerdynamic DT880s, but stear clear here.

Elite Hybrid (No recommendation
  • -- Sibiliance exists in the high end. It's a horrible sibilance too.
  • The sound is generally clean
  • -- Uncomfortable/painful Low end reverberations. Bass reigned in comapred to Elite Sheepskin. Brighter highs return. Brighter than stock (too bright)
  • - It's an interesting mix with low to high end, and the boosted bass is reigned in, but also other parts of the Mids are neutralized to create a v shape.
  • + Comfortable to wear and good isolation around the ears
  • Works on the Beyerdynamic MMX300 Gen II as a mastering pads but not on these cans.

Choice Leather (No recommendation)

  • --- Whilst highs are brighter, they are unfortunately full of sibilance. Worse than stock
  • -- The middle spectrum has been removed here that the Elite Sheepskin brought to life delightfully
  • -- The distortion in different frequencies is grating here with little redemable features.
  • - imaging
  • - Soundstage
  • ++ God like comfort on the head and good isolation around the ears
  • Whilst they rock on the Beyerdynamic MMX 300 Gen II, here they are to be avoided.
In conclusion I am extremely happy to say that pad swapping has been more effective than EQ could ever be. I certainly wont be selling these now, and for the last week i've not really worn any of my other headphones. The pads I am using the most are the Elite Sheepskins. I'm having so much fun going through listening to my music collection it's been hard to take them off. When i want it to be more relaxed, i just swap in the Elite Fenestrated Pads. I wont ever be revisiting the stock pads :)

Jimmy
 
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Friesiansam

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I have been thinking about pad swapping on my Focals. Considering swapping the original microfibre covered pads, for a pair of Dekoni sheepskin elites. Leather covered earpads seem to be the main difference between Elegias and the new Celestee, apart from cosmetic changes. I'm hoping I might find the little extra bass and improved isolation the Celestees apparently offer.
 

anort3

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Great comparison Jimmy. :)

I have been thinking about pad swapping on my Focals. Considering swapping the original microfibre covered pads, for a pair of Dekoni sheepskin elites. Leather covered earpads seem to be the main difference between Elegias and the new Celestee, apart from cosmetic changes. I'm hoping I might find the little extra bass and improved isolation the Celestees apparently offer.
Focals can certainly benefit from a pad swap. With stock pads the Elear has about a 9db bass boost and a hole in the upper mids. With the Elex ( Clear ) pads that's brought down to almost neutral. This might help as well.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqi54jd83uM
 

Friesiansam

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Focals can certainly benefit from a pad swap. With stock pads the Elear has about a 9db bass boost and a hole in the upper mids. With the Elex ( Clear ) pads that's brought down to almost neutral. This might help as well.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqi54jd83uM
That was an interesting video, as was the Celestee review that followed it as it was more detailed and informative then the few I found before. It's left me with a few things to think about and maybe the Celestee is worth upgrading to (I'm sure I can recover a few hundred pounds by selling my Elegias).
 
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ThisIsJimmy

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I have been thinking about pad swapping on my Focals. Considering swapping the original microfibre covered pads, for a pair of Dekoni sheepskin elites. Leather covered earpads seem to be the main difference between Elegias and the new Celestee, apart from cosmetic changes. I'm hoping I might find the little extra bass and improved isolation the Celestees apparently offer.
From my experience of swapping Beyers, i have found that each different headphone responds differently to the different pads. Their is no 'one size fits all' solution. Likewise I've read and heard that not all manufacturers seem to respond the same either. It depends how much ultimately on.

1. Willingness to invest
2. Willingness to experiment
3. Recommendations/reviews from the community (if they have tested pads in this way for your headphones)

As I have so many Beyers, purchasing all of them made sense. However, I know this wont be the same for everyone.
 

Friesiansam

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From my experience of swapping Beyers, i have found that each different headphone responds differently to the different pads. Their is no 'one size fits all' solution. Likewise I've read and heard that not all manufacturers seem to respond the same either. It depends how much ultimately on.

1. Willingness to invest
2. Willingness to experiment
3. Recommendations/reviews from the community (if they have tested pads in this way for your headphones)

As I have so many Beyers, purchasing all of them made sense. However, I know this wont be the same for everyone.
Been thinking about this a lot. I'm coming to the conclusion that pad swapping risks becoming a money-pit, with no guarantee any pads I try will actually sound better to me. I have a limited income and, I would rather save the money so I can try the Celestees and, if I like them and thus keep them, sell my Elegias. I don't spend money on booze, fags, drugs, gambling or fast women but, still can't afford to waste money. (Don't think the wife would be impressed with me spending money on fast women...)
 

Friesiansam

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@anort3 I've been using my Elegias with a revised EQ, in Foobar2000, based on what is suggested in the video you posted in this thread. Pleased with results, takes them up another notch.
 
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