I have listened to both receivers, but can't seem to come to a final decision on which one to buy.I have not seen a review of the RX-V 863 yet and we all know what the Onkyo can do. So those of you who own or have heard the RX-V 863, I would like to hear what your opinions are on the receiver please? I currently have a RX-V 461 and have not had any problems with movies or music.Your input will be greatly appreaciated.