No doubt if it had to be a pro-ject turntable, this would be it and the cartridge if better than the red is already something ,
never heard the silver but i put my faith in others knowledge as i have a 2 M black and not that good, only extremely filled with high´s , no detail , put on it a 207C cartridge built by Nagaoka to Technics, who were nothing special, but today are amazing. in 83 Technics had their stylus built by AT , i even have a tonearm from AT on a PLC-590 or in the U.S. PL-C 590 from Pioneer 20 series, 70´s product
i can give the example of the cartridge above the cheapest one of AT in 1983 and bought a Huco swiss brand of substitution stylus , the cheapest AT stylus ,sold it . A Pioneer turntable of 83 bellow the top model, and it was not comparable of so good it was to the 2 M black but also heard that some prefer the bronze who in my opinion bellow the cadenza series is not worth buying any,
compared to this new expensive vinyl readers with new built cheap cartridges and stylus very weak and a lot less hours of use,and asked fortunes for one aceptable cartridge
that nothing resembles what we 70´s generation heard with a very high quality, what still are sold but now vinyl instead of records.
Also a friend , a deutsch one, having every good turntable known to men ,he bought some years ago a Pro-Ject turntable that sounded like a good old one ,
and he did it like a dare and i was surprised it even looked like one ,
only too ,well not going to compare it with nothing but with his built tube amplifier from early 70´s and still using the B&W 801 ,i think he told me he had bought them in 1979,
spent in total 14.000€ the top Pro-Ject turntable, including a hana cartridge,
only after all , he put it again in the box and kept using his signature rotor turntable that sounds amazing and he has not a cover on the turntable but after listening to records he covers it with a crystal clear box that covers it all, also has the biggest collection of cartridges and needles for them by the side , since late 60´s he told me,
and he has a lot of turntables ,cartridges , amplifiers and speakers ,once he was using a Luxman from late 70´s with a control amp also luxman 45 watts he says but the sound it´s clean and loud with some not that big Altec lansing , also other time i saw him using a Accuphase two mono blocks M-60(tube ones) if memory doesn´t fail me he had a C-200 as control amplifier this using some mid 70´s JBL ,
old but almost perfect, this was my type of sound, also have a E-303X from the 80´s and a DP-60 cd player ,90´s one and not that long ago bought DAC , a DC-901 because it is a accuphase, normally i install a new internal dac, if the cd player as one not that good,
i´ve been hearing carefully cd and record version of the same album of diferent styles and noticed in good sounding cds that no vibrations are heard in the instruments played like saxofone or similar instruments with big variartions ,
also electric guitars as the strings produce a vibration cutted and the sound of the guitar is putted very low compared to the original record, more or less instruments sound like played in a good modern synthesizer,
sometimes i go to his home in the countryside and he puts records to play ,in direct but we hear all sounds with good level coming from the 801 from B&W. he also has a litle agriculture indoors and basically white widows his it biggest production,
He his maybe the only person who says he is a Audiophile and i agree. he is 92 years old now, just love his buddy rich big bands records some or most are recorded live, his entirelly dedicated to hi-fi components , changing each year all in his 70´s Range Rover, that uses a V8 gasoline engine,
also a litle agriculture with very sensible species ,with a hidroponic system and a huge amount of electricity spent every month, that he produces by a filled with panels part of his property, he says the electric company each month gives him money,
He installed alone a new turntable from goldnote and he calibrated all by hand and hear, this friend of mine that we met when we were 4 years old , was amazed because after he had all gadjets and checked , he couldn´t believe all was literally perfect aligned.
I only wrote this as there more to it than just put the same value of weight in the stylus in the anti-skating either than perfectly flat in a table with wooden IKEA boards, the smartest way and it works. Sorry for my XXL reply.
Have to say that now i understand better when they say cds sound better than vinyl has i went to a young man´s house where he showed me a complete system he paid 5.000€ for all and well assembled, all for vinyl reading from power suply´s to cables, power amp, speakers from Canton but looked good with stands, Naim was the amp. and a very nice looking turntable and he already has 27 vinyl records and 36 cds but the cd player is not in the system i heard,
well times are changing and maybe i´ll be gone and the peak and evolution of all that allows us to have better and better equipment well installed it will be like listening to a 60´s pocket A.M. radio,
but i´ll be gone and my great great sons will say "the old fart who does he thought he was , one listens to his system and instead of hearing a SACD MK XX we hear a band playing around us like in a big concert hall, that´s not Hi-Fi "
"Thick wood and aluminium like we never had seen, that resonates a lot, thin plastic that with the years will look like 80´s vintage plastic no wonder is generation wasted all Earth resources"
What happened to the flying fish that would fly above the boats deck, if it hitted a persons head could cause injuries, once i travelled from Portugal to Africa, still young with my mother in a big luxury ship in 1973 and saw many, and later in my highschool the science room had one but preserved , No one talks about it, it seems the same is happening with High-Fidelity,
Some kids buy only 70´s stuff and ask me "what is the R.I.A.A. curve?" or "what does that sticker means , DIN 45 500?"
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