Oldskool1976 said:
davedotco said:
No one has the faintest idea how to build a decent vinyl based playback system, I'll give you a clue.
It does not start with a mediocre disco style turntable and a two bob cartridge.
You mean the same 12/10's that was in production for nearly 40 years, a turntable so legendary that it has now become an icon.Not only one of the best built turntables ever made but freaking bulletproof as well, plus its likely to go on forever with proper servicing.
Even in its current state with a "2 bob cartridge" it still decimates any budget player I've ever heard.Plus as Lindsey stated, add a better tonearm/cartridge and you're taking things to the next level.
I also see you've recommended him to spend £1700 for a upgrade over a "medicore style disco turnatable".
In which case the £400 12/10's are pretty epic if he needs to spend £1700+ for it to be a upgrade.
It is a direct descendant of the horrendously microphonic SL1200 and SL120 models of the 70s. The various 1210s never got rid of the microphony so have never provided a stable platform for any kind of hi-fi performance.
You think a turntable with microphonic problems would be used for decades at Clubs/Raves?? Never heard any major issues in a mixing environment or at hi-fi level.
They made decent broadcast/dj players due to their massive torque, instant stop/start capabilities, and relatively low cost.
Decent? I think you mean industry standard, the only viable competitor were the Vestaks and even then what turntable do you think DJ's/Clubs/Bedroom DJ's used?
They made a reputation for themselves as 'good' players in this application but this reputation had nothing to do with sound quality, just functionality.
As already said, a updated tonearm and cartidge would solve this if OP still feels this way after they've changed amp or speakers.
The £1700 Clearaudio package was chosen because of the sort of money that the OP was talking about spending, ie it would be an appropriate choice for his budget which seems to be in the £3500-5000 area.
No problem with this if listening to vinyl is a favoured source.
A £400 Project or similar would be a comfortable up grade on what the OP currently has.
It might sound different or maybe even preferable to OP but to say its a comfortable upgrade is wrong imo.