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tinkywinkydipsylalapo said:
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This is a small piece of the review of a Synology NAS with two fans..

Yes, yes, I get your point. But really, quoting from a reviewer does your cause no good whatsoever: we all know how they'll write any old nonsense to fill space.

Ye ye, every thing is a big conspiracy and no one tell the truth ever, and reviewers are biased they just want the money from advertising... And so on... And so on...*biggrin*
 

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tinkywinkydipsylalapo said:
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Ye ye, every thing is a big conspiracy and no one tell the truth ever, and reviewers are biased they just want the money from advertising... And so on... And so on...*biggrin*

Who said anything about advertising?

So what reason would a reviewer have for saying something about a device that wasn't true?
 

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The_Lhc said:
tinkywinkydipsylalapo said:
Hi-FiOutlaw said:
Ye ye, every thing is a big conspiracy and no one tell the truth ever, and reviewers are biased they just want the money from advertising... And so on... And so on...*biggrin*

Who said anything about advertising?

So what reason would a reviewer have for saying something about a device that wasn't true?

You bit me to it.
 
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So what reason would a reviewer have for saying something about a device that wasn't true?

IME it's more often than not down to an apparent lack of understanding of the product, allied to what seems like a rush to get the requisite amount of words completed. That way features get overlooked, non-existent features get tested and decisions are made based more on the spec-sheet than actual experience.

Less reviewers, less interested reviewers, less experienced reviewers, less time to review and an ever more voracious demand for content: it's a widespread problem. Lost count of the number of times I've read a review of a product with which I'm familiar, or for which I have merely read the online information provided by the manufacturer, and thought 'that reviewer either hasn't actually tested the product or isn't quite sure what they're on about'.

And it's not unique to hi-fi reviews.
 

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tinkywinkydipsylalapo said:
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So what reason would a reviewer have for saying something about a device that wasn't true?

IME it's more often than not down to an apparent lack of understanding of the product,

So, in what way do you need to "understand" a NAS device in order to be able to work out if it's noisy or not? It either is or isn't noisy, no understanding required, just ears.
 
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Now you are talking about features... I thought it was about fan noise...

I'm confused...

I'm just saying that sometimes, in the rush to get a review published, reviewers (and I'm not talking specifically about the Synology reviewer you quoted) can rely too much on claimed performance and spec-sheets, and over-emphasise points in order to make an interesting read.

BTW another review I found online, in which the tester actually measured the noise output of the NAS with a calibrated meter rather than relying on getting close enough that it blew his frock up or ruffled his bouffant or whatever and making a subjective judgement, put a Synology at around 35dBA, and thus on a par with other NAS units from other manufacturers. Back on topic enough?
 

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tinkywinkydipsylalapo said:
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Now you are talking about features... I thought it was about fan noise...

I'm confused...

I'm just saying that sometimes, in the rush to get a review published, reviewers (and I'm not talking specifically about the Synology reviewer you quoted) can rely too much on claimed performance and spec-sheets, and over-emphasise points in order to make an interesting read.

BTW another review I found online, in which the tester actually measured the noise output of the NAS with a calibrated meter rather than relying on getting close enough that it blew his frock up or ruffled his bouffant or whatever and making a subjective judgement, put a Synology at around 35dBA, and thus on a par with other NAS units from other manufacturers. Back on topic enough?

35dBA from where the listener sat? If so, what distance was that?
 

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tinkywinkydipsylalapo said:
Hi-FiOutlaw said:
Now you are talking about features... I thought it was about fan noise...

I'm confused...

I'm just saying that sometimes, in the rush to get a review published, reviewers (and I'm not talking specifically about the Synology reviewer you quoted) can rely too much on claimed performance and spec-sheets, and over-emphasise points in order to make an interesting read.

BTW another review I found online, in which the tester actually measured the noise output of the NAS with a calibrated meter rather than relying on getting close enough that it blew his frock up or ruffled his bouffant or whatever and making a subjective judgement, put a Synology at around 35dBA, and thus on a par with other NAS units from other manufacturers. Back on topic enough?

I don't care about other NAS manufactors and the noise they produce, I don't own them and did not propose them to the OP!

Synology state that their NAS produce between 16-17db and not 35db.

I own one and I forget that it is there, for me that's quiet enough.
 
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35dBA from where the listener sat? If so, what distance was that?

Measured at 0.5m, but the point is that all the NAS units compared, however much our renegade friend would like to deny their existence, measured about the same, so the Synology isn't/wasn't especially quiet. Link here
 

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tinkywinkydipsylalapo said:
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35dBA from where the listener sat? If so, what distance was that?

Measured at 0.5m, but the point is that all the NAS units compared, however much our renegade friend would like to deny their existence, measured about the same, so the Synology isn't/wasn't especially quiet. Link here

35 db at 0,5m is very close, maybe if you double the distance the reading would be lower, close to the manifacture 17db ( just saing) I sit at 2,5m from my NAS thats why

I can't hear it.
 

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> fetch the music files (FLAC or WAV) from the NAS (Ethernet/Wifi);> > (b) provide an interface for me to choose songs (preferably either on a TV or on an App); and> > (c) deliver the music data to an external DAC for analog conversion and output via speakers. Look for WD TV, Roku, etc. For a modest price, these devices do exactly what you want. HTH
 
For that duty. Yes, I know it is discontinued. You can still get them but the prices! I think you're going to have to look at one with a DAC but one that has a digital out. That's the story with the SBT. I got it for $244. The Sherwood WD-1 is the closest to the feature set you need, but doesn't go beyond CD resolution.

Price is a function of volume. So, even though there are players that do what you want, and it should cost less to have fewer features, what you're asking for is so rare the producer has to set a high price due to low volume. Cheaper to get something that more people want, that you can ADAPT to what you need. Yes, it means features you aren't going to use, but that's true of your phone isn't it?

Look at the hifi landscape, and look what most people are buying. If you go far from that, money flies out of your wallet.
 

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is what I bought last year and a very good job of things it does, too. I have a 4TB local drive attached, with optical out into my Arcam DAC and HDMI out into a wall mounted 24" screen, and plays most audio and video formats all for £65. There are some annoyances, the main one being that it won't play files gapless. Having 4TB means that I also have space for 'one track' CD's which overcomes that problem.
 

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