naim question

[drummerman]

This is another thing I do not understand about Naim 

take the Naim supernait 2 which has a power supply of 400va why add extra power supply's to the Naim supernait which it has a good one already and the fact that Naim offers 3 different kinds of power supply's to add to the Naim supernait 2 as a upgrade ..... I did read somewhere that the extra power supply runs the pre side of things as the Naim supernait has a proper pre section and power section .

and let's say I add a power amplifier to my Yamaha you would all say it would be a wasting my money but if you add a power amplifier to a Naim supernait 2 then that's a different matter why ? 

I thought you do not gain nothing in using a power amplifier and it was better to buy one good amplifier instead .

Regulated external power supplies can make a substantial difference to sound as I can attest. Even properly designed integrated can benefit. How far do you want to go?

just understanding the product really and what benefits they give and if it's worth it .

what would I gain if I add a power amplifier to my Yamaha would there be a benefit or would this be pointless I've been here before with a marantz power amp but it never worked out of the box so never knew if back then if I would of gained anything or not .

You are confusing power amplifiers with highly regulated supplies.

The supplies in essence split the integrated circuit up into a separate pre and power amp. They generally don't increase power though there are a few that do such as T&A to name one.

Perhaps I misunderstood?

 

[drummerman]

Well I think Naim gear sounds great 

my mate has a Supernait 2 and on its own sounds excellent - when he adds a Hi Cap - it's just takes it onto another level with imaging & soundstage 

I believe the Hi Cap supplies power to the pre & motorised volume control ?

It also has the DR technology that has trickled down from the 500 series.

im actually even tempted to get an SN2 myself, the gear looks superb built like a tank & you can get a used SN2 for a little over £2k 

It certainly can sound very enjoyable, but I'd definitely first try it in your system if taking the plunge.  Maybe your mate can let you borrow or swap for a few days?  

The Naim will doubtless be fun, but for my money/ears you have the more accurate device already. 

... and we all know that is the be all and end all of our hobby ...

...our hobby being called high fidelity...!

Sure, whatever that means.

Ready, steady ...

My hobby is enjoying music.

 

[nopiano]

Well I think Naim gear sounds great

my mate has a Supernait 2 and on its own sounds excellent - when he adds a Hi Cap - it's just takes it onto another level with imaging & soundstage

I believe the Hi Cap supplies power to the pre & motorised volume control ?

It also has the DR technology that has trickled down from the 500 series.

im actually even tempted to get an SN2 myself, the gear looks superb built like a tank & you can get a used SN2 for a little over £2k

It certainly can sound very enjoyable, but I'd definitely first try it in your system if taking the plunge. Maybe your mate can let you borrow or swap for a few days?

The Naim will doubtless be fun, but for my money/ears you have the more accurate device already.

... and we all know that is the be all and end all of our hobby ...

...our hobby being called high fidelity...!

Sure, whatever that means.

Ready, steady ...

My hobby is enjoying music.

It means faithful to the original sound, and we can both agree about enjoying music! I guess for me Naim adds enjoyment, or tries to, whereas I'd rather have what was recorded. But there's room for many takes on an artistic or musical event.

 

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Hi Sabbath...you wouldn't really buy a supernait 2 to start addinga power amp to it...maybe a supercap....you really need at least a nap 250dr for it to be a upgrade.....maybe yes if you were planning it as a stepping stone to a proper pre /power combo...eg nac 252/250dr. Or 282/250dr or even 272xs/250dr etc and high end psu's can be added also hi cap /supercap/supercap dr.......the dr being a discrete regulation module.This is going to be bloody expensive though.lol.then after that it's into 300 and 500 series stuff and if you win the lottery you can have statement.

 

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Hi Sabbath...you wouldn't really buy a supernait 2 to start addinga power amp to it...maybe a supercap....you really need at least a nap 250dr for it to be a upgrade.....maybe yes if you were planning it as a stepping stone to a proper pre /power combo...eg nac 252/250dr. Or 282/250dr or even 272xs/250dr etc and high end psu's can be added also hi cap /supercap/supercap dr.......the dr being a discrete regulation module.This is going to be bloody expensive though.lol.then after that it's into 300 and 500 series stuff and if you win the lottery you can have statement.This is where naim excells....there is always another stepping stone up the ladder with just about every box they sell....only entry level integrated amps and cd players have limited options.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

Hi Sabbath...you wouldn't really buy a supernait 2 to start addinga power amp to it...maybe a supercap....you really need at least a nap 250dr for it to be a upgrade.....maybe yes if you were planning it as a stepping stone to a proper pre /power combo...eg nac 252/250dr. Or 282/250dr or even 272xs/250dr etc and high end psu's can be added also hi cap /supercap/supercap dr.......the dr being a discrete regulation module.This is going to be bloody expensive though.lol.then after that it's into 300 and 500 series stuff and if you win the lottery you can have statement.

hi mark

yes I've seen for myself how expensive buying Naim stuff can be by looking at other people setups on YouTube like just 3 Naim boxes £10.000 but seen a couple of supernait 2 on the bay secondhand so was kind of thinking of getting one as a second setup but doing my homework first to see if it's worth it or not .

i just thought that the Naim supernait 2 is Naim flagship amplifier which has a good power supply already and I understand that it has its own pre and power much like my Yamaha has .

but how I thought I understood it was by using the extra power supply's you can give the pre inside the Naim supernaits pre section it's own power supply is that right which basically turns the supernait into a pre and power amp ?

 

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The power supplies eg flatcap xs /hi cap /supercap are used to power the delicate pre amp section of the pre amps and can also be used for the cd players also.I think the supercap has a bit more strings to it's bow so to speak but I've not read to much into it as I very much doubt I'll be shopping in that price range.lol....I think the supernait will be all the amp your ever likely to need...it can drive some tough speakers....but the pre /power combos are an option if you see yourself climbing that never ending ladder....my own aim is either a supernait 2 or nac 172xs/nap 200 or 250.....either of these will be more than I ever need.or I could say stuff it..I'm having an all in one and buy a superuniti or the comming uniti star or uniti nova....plenty of choices...but be rest assured reliability and build quality is second to none....in fact if you looking to buy a second system....plenty of used naim gear on the bay which I wouldn't give a second thought about buying....naim folks are proud of their kit and look after it.thats yer best bang for your buck and it'll last for years.

 

[stevebrock]

For the record I preferred a SN2 over a 202/250 - now that is mad !

 

[rainsoothe]

For the record I preferred a SN2 over a 202/250 - now that is mad !

I prefered UQ2 + Nap 100 to the SN2 - how's THIS for madness?

 

[Paulq]

I prefered UQ2 + Nap 100 to the SN2 - how's THIS for madness?

I had that combo for a little while. Astonishing sound from 2 small boxes.