Perfectly valid points that i feel needs to be thought about especially at 2k, I dont have a problem with all in ones as long as they can be used without special soft wear and the Kefs cant be (tidal Spotify any sort or streaming FULL setup and so requires the KEF app) BUT the navis can and if you wish you can even add preamps and DACs . So i dont get the hostility really. I gave a different option Thats cheaper and gives options if he/she wishes.
As for repair yeah really is a problem then whole lot has to go and being digital in nature id be surprised if they can be repaired beyond simple things.
Everyone has a opinion but i listed out some facts at that sort money really need to be seriously considered.
It they want the Kefs go for it they sound fantastic.
But it seems like all the Op wants is a bluetooth system so just get 1 or 2 sonos play 5s job done will work better that all of the above. And have a proven support record where i feel 500-1k is just about right for that sort of product.
Frustration is not hostility. Their downfall are the apps agreed. The difference between software and hardware failure are different, how? Their very idea and concept is that you don't need to buy or add pre amps or DACs isn't it. That gives you a multi box option/solution. Again that isn't the point of the design and build. So the validity of those points in the correct context are a lot different.
When the first batch were released they had a high failure rate , all repaired and sorted with a current excellent reliability rate , but then you know this.
The facts are at this sort of money it will cost you more money with extra costs incurred on cables etc to achieve their performance and sound.
The little Kefs will do him but I would at least audition their bigger brothers.
Look at this way 50% of posts on here are from people who talk it but don't do the walk, by that I mean they have components ten to fifteen years old and stick with it containing a wave of features and designs that have parts that many didn't think would last or cause problems.
The other 50,% spend their time moaning and recommending speaker positioning tips,room treatments and panels along with a cornucopia of snake oil costing hard cash and continual add ons or continual box swopping to obtain synergy and sound improvement from speakers that cost more than the Kef speakers.
Kef are fools because at least one of their directors is linked or is a co director of the company that makes the app. Had they got it right they would have been at the front of the qué for the obvious natural progression of future hifi , Sonos,naim and others are moving towards the simpler idea of more in less boxes.
Considering the majority of spats and posts on this and every other hifi forum/platform a system that is unbelievably tolerant of its position and what it is placed on (putting them on their sides makes no difference) a system that doesn't require tape measures to define where the sweet spot is because it doesn't exist with the Kef ls 50w (it really doesn't) saves you wasting money on ugly NASA grade metal scientifically measured spaces on multi racks with zero hum or noise then costs , compatibility and peace of mind make them incredibly cheap.
Because of specifically the Kef stream app they should have been called up on it by the press and not received a blanket 5 stars. Darko , what hifi and co should be ashamed for not pointing this out.
I am not being hostile , apologies if you felt that. I read the pages on here and I bought them because I am not going to be one of the guys on here who think wasting money is a hobby and buying four grand speakers that don't sound good, unless you buy a new amp , move them away from a wall get different cables or buy panels to get them to possibly sound like the blurb is actually a sensible approach . I play music and enjoy it.