I think the operation might be a little bit noisy, but nothing distracting. I will keep an eye on that.
gel said:
These Gel:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-Pair-3D3-A1112-Universal-3D-TV-Eyewear-Active-Shutter-RF-Glasses-/110951413734?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_3D_TV_Glasses_Accessories&hash=item19d53837e6
They're very well constructed, rechargeable, have less of a tint than the Panasonic glasses, and block more ambient light from the sides (so less flicker). I used them with the GT50 and preferred them to the Panasonic glasses. They're slightly less expensive than the Panasonic glasses, too.
I can't comment on cheaper alternatives, but I decided to avoid. The 3D3s are widely owned and most that buy them like then very much.
gel said:strapped for cash said:
Superb - cheers.
Let me know if you decide to buy a pair. I'll be interested to hear what you think.
strapped for cash said:gel said:strapped for cash said:
Superb - cheers.
Let me know if you decide to buy a pair. I'll be interested to hear what you think.
Will do. Thanks mate.
Hi Gel,
So what's the verdict on the 55 now you've a bit more time to play with it?
I'm guessing you're happy, or you'd have updated this thread to advise of problems.
How does the 55 fare when upscaling DVDs? How's the analogue audio performance? (I'm not sure if this is important to you). Could you detect any difference outputting audio as bitstream or with the 55 decoding? (I have strong doubts that this will influence the sound produced, but it can be fun to experiment.)
So what's the verdict on the 55 now you've a bit more time to play with it?
I'm guessing you're happy, or you'd have updated this thread to advise of problems.
How does the 55 fare when upscaling DVDs? How's the analogue audio performance? (I'm not sure if this is important to you). Could you detect any difference outputting audio as bitstream or with the 55 decoding? (I have strong doubts that this will influence the sound produced, but it can be fun to experiment.)
strapped for cash said:
It is really good. It is virtually the same as my Pioneer 71 and that I paid £550 for, so the fact I got this for £249 makes it a bit of a bargain to me. DVDs look really good I will have to try a few more. Last night I played about 8 Blu-rays, it loads really quick and operation is faster than the 71. The 71 to me is the best Blu-ray player I have seen, so I have got from it what I wanted (I think).
Not tried the analogue performance yet, I will do that next and report back, because I do know what I am doing now so I will do it. I am enjoying playing with it. Will probably try it tomorrow now and report back, I will see how it goes. Cheers.
Glad you're happy! It's nice when you pick something up for a low price and it meets or exceeds expectations.
My favourite AV purchase remains my Teac PD-H600. It's an exceptional piece of kit that I can't fault in any way. (Well, it only plays CDs, but that's all I need it to do.) The fact that I picked it up for £200 as an outgoing model makes the deal even sweeter.
Comparing analogue stereo performance with the CA651, there's simply no contest. The CA sounds good, but the 600 represents a clear step up in terms of balance, nuance, and detail. Build quality is genuinely first rate, too. Whatever frustrations we experience as enthusiasts, every now and then a piece of kit lands in our laps that's above criticism.
My favourite AV purchase remains my Teac PD-H600. It's an exceptional piece of kit that I can't fault in any way. (Well, it only plays CDs, but that's all I need it to do.) The fact that I picked it up for £200 as an outgoing model makes the deal even sweeter.
Comparing analogue stereo performance with the CA651, there's simply no contest. The CA sounds good, but the 600 represents a clear step up in terms of balance, nuance, and detail. Build quality is genuinely first rate, too. Whatever frustrations we experience as enthusiasts, every now and then a piece of kit lands in our laps that's above criticism.
I have also seen the 55 on the VT65 and know it looks cracking and a clear step up on that too.
You know your issues with your TV do you think 3D playback over a period of time on the screen could have anything to do with it? I was just trying to think of causes? :?
You know your issues with your TV do you think 3D playback over a period of time on the screen could have anything to do with it? I was just trying to think of causes? :?
strapped for cash said:Glad you're happy! It's nice when you pick something up for a low price and it meets or exceeds expectations.
My favourite AV purchase remains my Teac PD-H600. It's an exceptional piece of kit that I can't fault in any way. (Well, it only plays CDs, but that's all I need it to do.) The fact that I picked it up for £200 as an outgoing model makes the deal even sweeter.
Comparing analogue stereo performance with the CA651, there's simply no contest. The CA sounds good, but the 600 represents a clear step up in terms of balance, nuance, and detail. Build quality is genuinely first rate, too. Whatever frustrations we experience as enthusiasts, every now and then a piece of kit lands in our laps that's above criticism.
Ah cheers.
gel said:
I guess it's not impossible that the extra brightness 3D demands drives the panel too hard; and could create problems. I can't prove this, but I have a theory that the implementation of faster phosphor technology has contributed to screen uniformity problems on Panasonic plasma TVs.
Before the 30 series, when Panasonic started including 3D functionality on less expensive models, Panasonic TVs had perfect uniformity. Whatever other issues the TVs had, my G10 and V20 had perfect screen uniformity; and I mean perfect. Neither used Panasonic's so called "faster switching phosphors." Thereafter, owners started reporting blobs and bands. On the other hand, the VT20 used faster phosphor technology and, to the best of my knowledge, screen uniformity was as perfect as it gets. Who knows?
Whatever the reason (or reasons), Panasonic has struggled to manufacture perfectly uniform plasma TVs for the last three years.
strapped for cash said:
Okay, I am not sure I do know how to let the Blu-ray player do the decoding. Any suggestions on how to do it? I thought it was simply a case of turning of the bitstream but that just mute the sound.
gel said:Okay, I am not sure I do know how to let the Blu-ray player do the decoding. Any suggestions on how to do it? I thought it was simply a case of turning of the bitstream but that just mute the sound.
Well, I don't own a Pioneer BDP, so I'm not familiar with the menu screens, but presumably there's a menu that allows you to change digital audio output options.
Assuming so, you should be able to switch from bitstream to PCM. Once PCM is selected the player will be decoding audio. Maybe a fellow LX55 (or at least Pioneer BDP) owner can guide you through the menu screens in more detail.
strapped for cash said:gel said:Okay, I am not sure I do know how to let the Blu-ray player do the decoding. Any suggestions on how to do it? I thought it was simply a case of turning of the bitstream but that just mute the sound.
Well, I don't own a Pioneer BDP, so I'm not familiar with the menu screens, but presumably there's a menu that allows you to change digital audio output options.
Assuming so, you should be able to switch from bitstream to PCM. Once PCM is selected the player will be decoding audio. Maybe a fellow LX55 (or at least Pioneer BDP) owner can guide you through the menu screens in more detail.
Yep, there is PCM I can select! I will give it a shot soon. That is perfect mate. Cheers.
Just tried it. PCM sounds quite good, not as loud as bitstream though. Not much to say about it really other than not as loud, apart from that it sounds good.
Update - it has frozen on me a couple of times, I have then had to restart it again. I suppose it has worked from the off 98 per cent of the time. A little bit of a pain. Once it works it is great but it has frozen a couple of times on me now.
It freezes when it is loading up, not when it is playing. It seems to get lost at times when loading sometimes. Not a major issue but a little bit of a pain.
That's my broad concern about Pioneer BDPs. When they work, which is the great majority of the time, they're excellent payers; but Pioneer BDPs occasionally get the hiccups.
What do you think you'll do? Have you decided to keep the player?
What do you think you'll do? Have you decided to keep the player?
strapped for cash said:
There is not much I think I can do? I had decided to keep it for sure, but it did cross my mind a little. Would it be not fit for purpose? It has the latest firmware update. Don't really want to part with it, as long as it doesn't happen too much I think it will be okay.
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Pioneer LX55 is available since November 2011, and is still their current model. It was launched alongside BDP-440. 450 was launched last year, with 150. This year, only 160 has been announced so far. I'm not sure if Pioneer is serious about its blu ray business. Other manufacturers have been consistent with updating their blu ray offerings.
gel said:
Well, I guess you have two options:
1. Keep the Pioneer and live with the odd glitch
2. Get a refund and consider an alternative BDP
I wouldn't wish to influence any decision you make. I guess it comes down to how much you think occasional freezes when loading certain discs will bother you.
strapped for cash said:
I have owned two other Pioneer Blu-ray players and have not had these issues! I think tomorrow I will phone up the shop and report it for a full refund. Here we go again.
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