Mathematicians required...

[Chisy1]

I have an enclosed space which is 1040mm wide and would like to replace my bulky 37" plasma with a tv with a super slim bezel. I've seen one which is 1041.1mm wide. It obviously wont fit! However, if I put the tv in at an angle it would go in. My question is, without spending c.£1,800 to find out, at what angle would the tv have to be tilted in order to gain that frustrating 1.1mm. Are there any mathematicians who would like to take on this challenge?

It would probably make more sense to me if I knew the following, rather than just the angle. If the outer edge of the right hand side of the tv is flush with the unit, how far back into the unit would the left hand side of the tv need to be?

many thanks
Chisy

 

[John Duncan]

I make it 47.85mm, but this is dependent somewhat on the actual depth of that front bezel - the width will increase beyond 1041.1mm as you tilt it.

 

[RobinKidderminster]

I recon a small scale drawing on graph paper or using software would most easily confirm things.

Measure twice and cut once.

 

[BenLaw]

Using pythagorus, I agree with JD. If the TV were infinitely thin (Samsung?

) 1041.1^2 - 1040^2 = depth^2. Not got a scientific calculator to do the trig to work out the angle.

 

[John Duncan]

Though to be fair, every 1cm depth of bezel only increases the *maximum* width of the tv (at any angle) by less than half a mill, so my calculation will be near enough. More of an issue might be the depth of the stand, and how far back the tv needs to sit from the edge of the alcove *anyway*, before you need to do any tilting...

 

[BenLaw]

Found one online. 2.63 degrees, again assuming it's a flat line, which it's not.

 

[John Duncan]

The angle's less than 3 degrees for what worth.

 

[John Duncan]

Jinx.

 

[BenLaw]

Lol

I really should get some work done....

 

[chebby]

...would like to replace my bulky 37" plasma with a tv with a super slim bezel. I've seen one which is 1041.1mm wide. It obviously wont fit!

Get one that fits comfortably.

Just been look at 42" Panasonic Plasmas. The TX-P42VT30B specifically and it is 1018mm wide.

Samsung 42" Plasma (two different models) 1031mm wide.

What was the brand and model screen size you wanted?

 

[scene]

Agree with all of the above - the angle is about 2.63 degrees - arccos(1040/1041.1) (converted from radians to degrees).

At 2.63 degrees, a 5mm deep bezel would add about 2.2 mm to the width... In fact, if you have a 5mm bezel, the "effective" width of the TV becomes 1041.112 - what it means is if the BACK corner of the lefthand bezel is flush with the front of the gap, the FRONT corner of the righthand side of the TV will be 48.1 mm back

 

[John Duncan]

Agree with Chebby - get a smaller telly. It'll just annoy you...

 

[chebby]

Ok you are after the Samsung UE46D8000 LED TV. (First thing that comes up if I google 1041.1mm)

I didn't realise you were going up that far in size of screen from your old 37" (and I thought you were going for another plasma).

 

[cheyworth]

unless you can trim a couple of mm off the wall?

 

[Andrew Everard]

unless you can trim a couple of mm off the wall?

Can't help feeling the OP May have explored that avenue before posing the question. Mind you, if the TV is to be fitted into an alcove or whatever, some caution should be exercised about too snug a fit, as air circulation will be needed for cooling.

 

[Chisy1]

Wow, what great replies and thanks ever so much. You are right, I'd love to fill the gap with the samsung Chebby mentions. I think a 5cm swing on the tv stand would not only annoy me but would also and more importantly annoy Mrs Chisy. I had hoped it would be less than that. The stand is one of those wall units with a hole for the tv and bookshelves all around it. It's made from mdf so might be possible to chisel out sufficient to fit the tv. Problem is I'm completely useless at DIY. Mr Everard - thanks for the warning on over heating, hopefully there would be enough gap in the hole both top and bottom to sort that out. Only wish there was a 44" version...and perhaps I ought to just go with a 42" - might even save a bit of money. decisions decisions. Thanks for all your help though.

 

[laserman16]

Mind you, if the TV is to be fitted into an alcove or whatever, some caution should be exercised about too snug a fit, as air circulation will be needed for cooling.

Good advice, I think most manuals that come with TVs give the optimum space to allow around the set for circulation.

Might be worth downloading manuals of the sets your interested in before you buy the set itself.

 

[Andrew Everard]

Good advice, I think most manuals that come with TVs give the optimum space to allow around the set for circulation.

Might be worth downloading manuals of the sets your interested in before you buy the set itself.

Samsung manual he say:

/sites/whathifi.com/files/images/blogs/samsung%208000%20space.jpg

 

[Chisy1]

Good advice, I think most manuals that come with TVs give the optimum space to allow around the set for circulation.

Might be worth downloading manuals of the sets your interested in before you buy the set itself.

Samsung manual he say:

/sites/whathifi.com/files/images/blogs/samsung%208000%20space.jpg

Well that's pretty clear, wont be getting that one! Chisy

 

[Andrew Everard]

Well that's pretty clear, wont be getting that one! Chisy

I think you'll find those distances are pretty standard for TVs

 

[def lugs]

Hi Chisy,

I am not much good at maths but can draw a bit. Using sketchup software (free download from google) I downloaded an already modelled TV and a Cabinet and modified the cabinet with 'vents' down each side of TV. This will give you enough ventilation.

These could be cut in with a router and a bit of skill, then finished off with matching coloured edging to suit the cabinet. I have no idea what sort of cabinet you have but it could be an option.

The model can be found in google 3dwarehouse:-

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=7f8df4bfb5d231dfc127cf0a3ba35e70&prevstart=0

search samsung tv in stand

 

[andy_s]

unless you can trim a couple of mm off the wall?

Can't help feeling the OP May have explored that avenue before posing the question. Mind you, if the TV is to be fitted into an alcove or whatever, some caution should be exercised about too snug a fit, as air circulation will be needed for cooling.

Well done Andrew!, i was reading thru this lot and thought no one has mentioned a cooling gap all round!,

that was of coarse, till i read the rest of them. lol