This thread is now clearly a mile away from the OP! NickD2544, I'm glad you've made your purchase
- perhaps after a few weeks you'll be able to let us know your impressions
But more things have been said by David that I feel I ought to respond to, and at least this 'has the makings of a classic' - if not maybe already become one
If I could just remind you David of my contribution to the thread, and perhaps you'll realise it can only be paranoia that means you see conspiracies: (i) I have no decided view myself, I haven't done enough experimenting for me to reach a decision, (ii) I understand there are a range of views - from 'after market leads add nothing', to 'at the right price, after market leads will always be beneficial' and your rather ambivalent view in between, (iii) all these are personal opinions, and no-one should get upset by them, (iv) to describe any of these views as 'deranged' (as darkdealx did) or 'beyond reasonableness' (as wireman did) or 'biased' (as wireman did) is plainly wrong - everyone is entitled to their opinion, (v) I can see good reasons why any dealer would choose not to identify particular products they've heard which they do not rate, especially when people have already described their views as deranged and unreasonable.
Note that in none of that did I either side with Rick's view or in any way attack you David. I was attempting (others can judge if succeeding
) to be balanced, reasonable and light-hearted. Yet you feel the need to say 'Haven't you recently been made a moderator on a certain retailer's forum? Hence, your interest in this.' When I respond to this, one of your (many) responses is 'Seeing as I haven't "attacked" anyone, it looks like you're trying to 'go to town' on me!' Well it seems clear you have 'attacked' me, with no provocation, in that you have implied I am biased and partial, and my opinion motivated by something other than expressing my genuine view (agnostic as it in fact is)
You have also been completely hypocritical. You have accused me of 'going to town on you'. I'll let others judge whether this is an attack on you or me responding to your unjustifiable position. I'm sure if people feel I have been unfair they will leap to your defence, although that doesn't seem to have happened so far
You also seem to suggest there's a problem with me 'flexing [my] 'defensive' muscle' but just 17 minutes earlier you said 'I appreciate for some it seems easier to have a pop at a retailer rather than a member of the public, but that doesn't stop me replying or setting things straight after people try and stir things.' That's all I've done. And you seem to have no problem 'having a pop at' a member of the public
Unfortunately, you also seem to have problems with either counting or memory. My point 2 was a quote from alienRIK (post 533049) not you. I'm prepared to take responsibility for your error as the quotes aren't named (I'm a forum novice after all
) although some may wonder why you can't remember what you have and haven't said. So that's 2 out of 5 addressed to you, tho you may think it's quality not quantity
Again I'll leave it for others to decide, but if they consider your various contributions to the thread they may be concerned. You said 'until you try a specific power cable, with a specific product, in your home, it's impossible to know whether it makes a difference..Other systems will show worthwhile benefits, and it's for these users that it's worth the outlay.' Yet you accept that your experience is limited in the extreme - only 1 cable at home, nearly a decade ago, ie before the explosion in aftermarket cables and only a few in the office where you 'find it hard to hear differences'. You also (very fairly
) name 2 manufacturers who advise against their use. I would be interested to hear if you know of any manufacturers who make positive recommendations. I suspect you can't, tho I'm happy to be corrected.
Anyway, you've said, 'If someone on here asked me a question, however difficult or simple it is, and regardless of why they're asking that question, I'd answer it.' So I have a couple of questions for you. I'll let you decide if they're difficult or simple, but clearly you've promised to answer them.
On HiFix you sell Chord Superscreen mains cable (£58.50), Isotek Premium mains cable (£85.50), Ixos XHP425 mains cable (£52) and QED Qonduit mains cable (£45). Which do you consider to be the least effective cable? Please don't hedge your bets and say 'different ones are better in different circumstances'. A customer could easily walk in off the street looking to purchase one of these cables, and you wouldn't know their room or system intimately. It seems you may also not have even experimented with many of the cables you sell, which I imagine makes giving honest and helpful advice rather difficult.
(Given your range you can see why I've said you would be unable to say that after-market mains leads are ineffective even if you believed that, and why you might have left out the Bryston/Naim information from your first post.)
And given that you say 'In some systems and houses it'll be no difference, maybe even detremental. Other systems will show worthwhile benefits, and it's for these users that it's worth the outlay', are you therefore giving an unconditional warranty that all your sales of mains products will be sale or return?
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