Living with the Samsung Q7f

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I had this TV for a month now. Here is an update.

The bad; I, for some reason unknown to myself ... like glassy, reflective screens. This one is very efficient in absorbing ambient light. I think Samsung call it the 'moth eye' filter. So whilst it looks like glass from the side when switched off it reflects very little head on. Call me odd.

The stand, whilst superbly made in stainless steel, would, imho, look better in black.

The second metal remote, again ... whilst superbly engineered, can be a tad cold to the touch. Nice in summer, not so in ... . - It does come with a comprehensive plastic finished controller too, so that gets around that plus the Samsung phone app controller is quite outstanding too. Far far better than Sony's sad excuses. Still, there is something very satisfying using the metal remote, cold hands aside.

Viewed from an angle, it's better than any other LED tv I've seen (new 2018 Q9FN excempt), but it's not OLED good. - Sit say 45 degree off and you can see colours starting to fade a little. Brightness stays consistent a little more, to perhaps 50/55 degree.

There is also some blooming visible when viewed from more than about 45 degree. Until then the set is mostly inky black.

The good; After some calibration, the picture is outstanding. - Colours absolutely bounce off the screen even in dark and bright scenes. Skin tones are natural, Contrast is great, blacks are deep and motion is fantastic, in any mode, for sport or movies.
HD and 4K are super sharp (Sharpness on minimum). The picture is at the same time smooth and grain free, even without digital noise reduction. The panel is free from banding or DSE. Even in substandard terrestrial low def broadcasts there is no block noise in dark scenes (but obviously a lot of definition is missing and the picture is softer) Gaming experience with the Xbox X seems faultless, colours pop and there is no noticeable lag. - It goes very bright when needed. - Automatic brightness ambient control works flawlessly. There are no untoward level fluctuations whatsoever. In fact this can be seen when changing ambient light. The set VERY slowly adjusts to the new level. I am at a loss why calibrators always suggest not to use it. It is both super convenient and effective. Not to use it is just silly. Tizen's operating system/engine is fast and clear, a joy to use compared to Android/Sony.

Everyone that came round when the tv was on has commented on the picture and look of the set.

Would I change it?

Yes.

For an LG C8 or Samsung Q9FN 2018. Both nearly three times the price though.

I am running out of time though. After 2 JL price matches I got refunded £200 and got the set down to ££1099.

If anyone sees one cheaper, in stock please let me know! :)

I've seen the following but don't think JL would price match?

https://www.mysmarttvs.co.uk/products/samsung-qe55q7fam-55-smart-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-qled-tv?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=googlepla&variant=47130305228&gclid=Cj0KCQjwn-bWBRDGARIsAPS1svtzuYJBVqR-1RfUfUOmyU74cKd0MPjonInVk4HxgZuYS43IL7Ejf3MaAr46EALw_wcB
 
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drummerman said:
I had this TV for a month now. Here is an update.

The bad; I for some reason unknown to myself ... like glassy, reflective screens. This one is very efficient in absorbing ambient light. I think Samsung call it the 'moth eye filter. So whilst it looks like glass from the side when switched off it reflect very little head on. Call me odd.

The stand, whilst superbly made in stainless steel would look better in black.

The second metal remote, again whilst superbly engineered, can be a tad cold to the touch. Nice in summer, not so in ... . It does come with a comprehensive plastic controller too so that gets around that plus the Samsung phone app controller is quite outstanding too. Far far better than Sony's sad excuses. Still, there is something very satisfying using the metal remote, cold hands aside.

Viewed from an angle, it's better than any other LED tv I've seen (new 2018 Q9FN except), but it's not OLED clear. Sit say 45 degree off and you can see colours starting to fade a little. Brightness stay consistent a little more, to perhaps 50/55 degree.

There is also some blooming visible when viewed from more than about 45 degree. Until then the set is mostly inky black.

The good; The picture is superb. Colours absolutely bounce off the screen even in dark and bright scenes. Contrast is great, blacks are deep and motion is fantastic, in any mode, for sport or movies. HD and 4K are super sharp (Sharpness on minimum). The picture is at the same time smooth and grain free, even without digital noise reduction. The panel is free from banding or DSE. Even in substandard terrestrial low def broadcasts there is no block noise in dark scenes (but obviously a lot of definition is missing and the picture is softer) Gaming experience with Xbox X seems faultless. It goes very bright. Automatic brightness ambient control works flawlessly. There are no untoward level fluctuations whatsoever. In fact this can be seen when changing ambient light. The set very slowly adjusts to the new level. I am at a loss why calibrators always suggest not to use it. It is both super convenient and effective. Not to use it is just silly.

Everyone that came round when the tv was on has commented on the picture and look of the set.

Would I change it?

Yes.

For an LG C8 or Samsung Q9FN 2018. Both nearly three times the price though.

I am running out of time though. After 2 JL price matches I got refunded £200 and got the set down to ££1099.

If anyone sees one cheaper, in stock please let me know! :)

I've seen the following but don't think JL would price match?

https://www.mysmarttvs.co.uk/products/samsung-qe55q7fam-55-smart-4k-ultr...
 
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It would be worth sending in a price match form and see what they say.
 
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drummerman said:
Cheers gel. Bought in store so have to go there. I guess it's worth a punt. I am sure they will price match the £20.
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It’s hard to say DM. This might be a very good stop gap option and not much difference to yours:

https://www.johnlewis.com/samsung-ue55mu6400-hdr-4k-ultra-hd-smart-tv-55-inch-with-tvplus-freesat-hd-active-crystal-colour-ultra-hd-certified-silver/p3215464

The deals I have seen in the past year, point towards Oled at 55-inch for £1000 achievable, but you got to time it right. These Samsung’s must have very good re-sell value.

I think you are making a sensible choice with your TV but perhaps a costly one.
 
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https://www.appliancesdirect.co.uk/p/ue55mu6400uxxu/samsung-ue55mu6400uxxu-55-inch-smart-led-tv?refsource=APadwords&refsource=Apadwords&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIu_z4wPHL2gIVybobCh3ysA7MEAQYAyABEgLuOPD_BwE

Cheaper here.
 
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DM I got it for £975 - your Samsung and John Lewis do price match:

https://www.totaldigital.biz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=43_160&products_id=7153

You could phone up your local John Lewis and register the price match now, and then go in tomorrow and claim it.
 

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gel said:
It’s hard to say DM.  This might be a very good stop gap option and not much difference to yours:

https://www.johnlewis.com/samsung-ue55mu6400-hdr-4k-ultra-hd-smart-tv-55-inch-with-tvplus-freesat-hd-active-crystal-colour-ultra-hd-certified-silver/p3215464

The deals I have seen in the past year, point towards Oled at 55-inch for £1000 achievable, but you got to time it right.  These Samsung’s must have very good re-sell value.  

I think you are making a sensible choice with your TV but perhaps a costly one.  

Nooooo. Very happy with the tv. I'll upgrade again in a year or two.
 

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DM I got it for £975 -  your Samsung and John Lewis do price match:

https://www.totaldigital.biz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=43_160&products_id=7153

You could phone up your local John Lewis and register the price match now, and then go in tomorrow and claim it.  

Great find. Thanks!
 
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gel said:
DM I got it for £975 - your Samsung and John Lewis do price match:

https://www.totaldigital.biz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=43_160&products_id=7153

You could phone up your local John Lewis and register the price match now, and then go in tomorrow and claim it.

Great find. Thanks!
No probs.
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Many thanks DM, I was kind of joking on your other thread when I said I'd probably end up with the same TV as you but I'm seriously interested in the Q7F now. I did start looking at the 49" but I was staggered to see it was more expensive than the 55", how can that be? Anyway, I've been plonking a large piece of cardboard in front of my current telly when it's off to see if I could stand a 55" TV in my front room - I know, quite odd, but it helps me visualise these things - it's quite a jump up from a 40" but I'm swaying towards it now. Another major stumbling block for me was the relatively poor SD performance on larger TV's but it finally dawned on me that I could just go and watch SD on my old 40" which I'm moving to my bedroom, problem solved. *biggrin*
 
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I have seen a deal on the Sony Oled at £1999 if you are interested?
 

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I went from a 42in to a 55in, quite a jump but due to the fact that the newer tv was much thinner in design and only had a half inch bezel around the screen it didn't seem to take up as much space, strangley it weighed less as well. I could never go back to a smaller tv, infact for my next upgrade I will be going bigger, up to a 65in.

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Hi Diamond Joe. - I know what you mean regarding size. I initially bought a Sony XE80 in a 49". It seemed perfect. Then got the Samsung in 55". - I very quickly got used to it. I don't think I would go back to a smaller size unless the room absolutelydictates it. I probably sit about 2 to 2.5 meters away.

The Samsung's have some of the thinnest borders I've seen and have no protruding bezels. Even an LG C7/B7 looks bigger and have thicker screen borders.

What really sets the Q range apart though is the amazing no gap wall bracket. Mount it on a wall and it looks smaller yet. This is what initially got me when I first saw the set.

I think it's a bargain at today's price.

Others to consider are Sony's XE930, down to I think £1299 last time I looked and XE900 at about the same price of the Q7. - You may or may not prefer them.

LG's B7 is available at around £1600 at present, a big saving over the new C8 but not quite as good PQ.
 

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My local JL price matched again when I went today. No questions asked. Great customer service.

It now cost me £975.

Much obliged for your help Gel.
 
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Deal here:

https://www.rlrdistribution.co.uk/viewproduct/19626/samsung-qe55q7f-55-smart-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-qled-tv?awc=6287_1524913213_cc4fa2202248c33f52d7fbbf7fa3fc57&utm_source=awin&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=rlrdistributions

Worth a price match try.
 
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Another one here:

https://districtelectricals.co.uk/samsung-qe55q7f-55-inch-ultra-hd-4k-smart-quantum-dot-led-tv.html
 

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Hi Gel

Thanks. I actually got it cheaper than the above two. JL made a mistake. - I did not notice until the price match was refunded to my card a few days later. I rarely check receipts unfortunately and I didn't want to bragg about it here.

I think Districtelectricals are usually refurbs/returns they buy of other retailers hence why cheaper. The other is a good price!

Still VERY pleased with the tv and thanks again for finding the price.
 
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*biggrin*. Brilliant!

John Lewis made a mistake with me too the other day, I bought the used Philips Oled for £1435 and paid £25 installation cancelled when I got home for a full refund and they refunded the full amount, so I got the installation cost free!
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