Listened to Naim DAC V-1 + Naim NAP 100

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Listened to Naim DAC V-1 + Naim NAP 100:

Lots of energy in the presentation, did not try to sound analouge.

Good mid-band, better than more expensive Naims.

Still, what specifically is it in the design which motivates the price?

Anyone else which have done an au(dio)dition?
 

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NHL said:
Listened to Naim DAC V-1 + Naim NAP 100:

Lots of energy in the presentation, did not try to sound analouge.

Good mid-band, better than more expensive Naims.

Still, what specifically is it in the design which motivates the price?

Anyone else which have done an au(dio)dition?

I haven't heard them. The NAP100 is priced a bit below the Nait 5i. I assume it is basically the power amp section of the Nait 5i with perhaps some improvements.

As for the DAC-V1: I am truly puzzled that Naim seems to have no interest in producing a reasonable priced streamer / DAC. They don't have a single one priced like a 5i series component, but they now have a pile of DACS and Streamers in overlapping price ranges.
 

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Does the new DAC offer streaming?

I was under the impression it doesn't - it's just a DAC with a built-in preamp section that should connect to the matching, half-sized power amp. So I think it's targeted at computer-based desktop systems perhaps?
 

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I've had a listen to it last weekend at a friends (London UK) I was comparing the NAP100 to the internal amp of my unitiQute as well as a pair of Musical Fidelity X A50 mono blocks. We used DSD files played on a macbookpro with audirvana and the Chord company chordette DSD DAC. We used my KEF R100s as his B&W 802Ds where not set up. I should get another chance to listen to it this week, before posting any realy impressions.
 

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Singslinger said:
Does the new DAC offer streaming? I was under the impression it doesn't - it's just a DAC with a built-in preamp section that should connect to the matching, half-sized power amp. So I think it's targeted at computer-based desktop systems perhaps?

No it does not offer streaming. It's meant to be a desktop system (or I guess paired with a cheap streamer like a Squeezebox).
 

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Ajani said:
Singslinger said:
Does the new DAC offer streaming? I was under the impression it doesn't - it's just a DAC with a built-in preamp section that should connect to the matching, half-sized power amp. So I think it's targeted at computer-based desktop systems perhaps?

No it does not offer streaming. It's meant to be a desktop system (or I guess paired with a cheap streamer like a Squeezebox).

The proposition is targeted towards computer buffs. Included in the package is a headphone amp. Also possible to be used as a preamp.

As mentioned earlier, Naim now have a lot of overlapping stuff in the same price segment. What is the estimated second hand price for this combo?

http://www.naimaudio.com/sites/default/files/products/downloads/files/dac-v1_asynchronous-usb_mwp_jan13_0.pdf
 

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Is it possible to connect an old vinyl preamp to the V-1?

Some price explanation:

http://www.naimaudio.com/sites/default/files/products/downloads/files/naim_dac_august_2009.pdf
 

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Firstly, if your questioning the price of Naim, forget it. They are high end and therefore their priced appropriately. As it is a new prduct, unlikely to appear in the second hand market for 2/3 years. Its mostly designed to connect a laptop, pc etc to. Although their streamer offerrings are very confusing, i think they may have about 10 products that can stream
 

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HiFi Choice have the naim combo on the front page, new issue. Glowing review, finished with noticing that only digital source is viable. The reviewer was content, but I can not connect the vinyl player, then. :read:
 

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Hi,
Read the review in HFC ,didn't say if it was better than current Naim dac but is a large amount cheaper and will take usb. They gave the dac 5 stars (recommended) for what it's wort h and said it sounded like a Naim product so still retaining that aspect which to my view is a good thing.
The size is also good for me as it will sit nicely next to my NAS ripper.

I hope to be demoing in the next couple of weeks, I am demoing the Exposure dac tomorrow along with audiolab and a couple of MF dac's.

Then hope to listen to the better of those with the Naim V1dac , NAD M51 and the naim streamers but I am mainly wanting just a dac not a streamer.

Will have a look at the Naim forum but views there tend to be a little biased.

Would be intrigued by anyone else who may have heard it and their views.
 

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NHL said:
Audiolab M-DAC vs V-1? Have never listened to M-DAC.

Clearly the Naim DAC V-1 is aiming to capture some of the market share of the Audiolab M-DAC: a small-format, arguably audiophile asynchronous DAC with pre-amp, digital-only inputs etc. Comparison of the two will be very interesting.
 

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Dommer said:
I've had a listen to it last weekend at a friends (London UK) I was comparing the NAP100 to the internal amp of my unitiQute as well as a pair of Musical Fidelity X A50 mono blocks. We used DSD files played on a macbookpro with audirvana and the Chord company chordette DSD DAC. We used my KEF R100s as his B&W 802Ds where not set up. I should get another chance to listen to it this week, before posting any realy impressions.

Hi, ready to share :quest:

Got the new v.UQ myself.

I believe the new DAC/Amp combo is Naim going backwards;removing all the good functionallity and simplicity from the UQ, adding another box, must now buy a decent interconnect, double the price.. come on!

Please Dommer, tell me that the UQ is as good as the new combo :pray:
 

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