Does anyone have a T.V with these options? I understand that LG and Samsung now implant it on their newer range of sets but how does it perform? Can you reduce judder so you don't get artifacts but some judder remains slightly so you don't get the soap opera effect or Trumotion/Motionplus problems?
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LG And Samsung Adjustable Blur/Judder
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Frank Harvey
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You could use some fancyily named process to remove judder caused by 24fps, but you'll end up with something that looks like live TV rather than film. I don't like these processes, I'd rather stick with judder!
Thanks for the reply, LG and Samsung now have a bar ranging from 0 to 9 (I believe) which you can reduce judder with but without introducing problems that some motion processes have. I am wondering if it actually works or if it still has the same problems as Trumotion/Motionflow etc..
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Well, it'll either work well or blur! I'd be interested in seeing one of these processes work without either smearing the image, or making it look like video. Good luck with your search
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Does anyone have a T.V with these options? I understand that LG and Samsung now implant it on their newer range of sets but how does it perform? Can you reduce judder so you don't get artifacts but some judder remains slightly so you don't get the soap opera effect or Trumotion/Motionplus problems?
My Samsung LED has two manually adjustable Motion settings, Blur Reduction and Judder Reduction, which range from 0-10.
I was always in David's camp of 'turn off all the artifical processing' before, but I've found that (unfortunately) leaving it off on my Sammy leaves much to be desired (as opposed to my previous, short-lived Sony 703, which looked best with everything off). Ultimately, I concluded that I needed to experiment with these settings to combat the motion issues.
Therefore, I have Blur Reduction set all the way to 10 - this doesn't ruin the filmic look of movies at all, but it just does what it says on the tin, and keeps fast-moving objects looking more distinct and less smeary.
It's Judder Reduction you have to be careful with - from setting 4 upwards, the look of films is destroyed, leaving everything looking blatantly sped-up and unnatural. But at around level 3 or 4, it does a nice job of smoothing things out without going too far.
Does anyone have a T.V with these options? I understand that LG and Samsung now implant it on their newer range of sets but how does it perform? Can you reduce judder so you don't get artifacts but some judder remains slightly so you don't get the soap opera effect or Trumotion/Motionplus problems?
My Samsung LED has two manually adjustable Motion settings, Blur Reduction and Judder Reduction, which range from 0-10.
I was always in David's camp of 'turn off all the artifical processing' before, but I've found that (unfortunately) leaving it off on my Sammy leaves much to be desired (as opposed to my previous, short-lived Sony 703, which looked best with everything off). Ultimately, I concluded that I needed to experiment with these settings to combat the motion issues.
Therefore, I have Blur Reduction set all the way to 10 - this doesn't ruin the filmic look of movies at all, but it just does what it says on the tin, and keeps fast-moving objects looking more distinct and less smeary.
It's Judder Reduction you have to be careful with - from setting 4 upwards, the look of films is destroyed, leaving everything looking blatantly sped-up and unnatural. But at around level 3 or 4, it does a nice job of smoothing things out without going too far.
Thanks for the reply Liam 🙂 Could you tell me if those features introduce artifacts or glitches when set to low?
MrJay60:Thanks for the reply Liam 🙂 Could you tell me if those features introduce artifacts or glitches when set to low?
Well there can be the occasional hiccup (odd little instances of the film looking like it jumped a couple of frames) but these are rare enough not to bother me too much.
Blur Reduction, like I said, doesn't negatively affect the picture at all in my opinion, even when set to maximum.
When Judder Reduction is set to around 4/5 and higher, motion becomes unnatural and far too sped-up in appearance, with little glitches and artifacts frequently introduced as a result of over-processing. I definitely wouldn't recommend setting this too high, but it works nicely for me at around 3 or 4 (depending on source, really!).
Well there can be the occasional hiccup (odd little instances of the film looking like it jumped a couple of frames) but these are rare enough not to bother me too much.
Blur Reduction, like I said, doesn't negatively affect the picture at all in my opinion, even when set to maximum.
When Judder Reduction is set to around 4/5 and higher, motion becomes unnatural and far too sped-up in appearance, with little glitches and artifacts frequently introduced as a result of over-processing. I definitely wouldn't recommend setting this too high, but it works nicely for me at around 3 or 4 (depending on source, really!).
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