Nope, not getting rid of my Leema, interested in seeing how close one could get without the amp losing its essential qualities... what speakers and source.
plastic penguin said:Nope, not getting rid of my Leema, interested in seeing how close one could get without the amp losing its essential qualities... what speakers and source.
Overdose said:plastic penguin said:Nope, not getting rid of my Leema, interested in seeing how close one could get without the amp losing its essential qualities... what speakers and source.
Some solid state amps are class A, or have I missed the point?:?
Overdose said:Crossover distortion? So whatever this is, Class A amps eliminate it?
Edit: I see, yes. Not the speaker type crossover then.
plastic penguin said:So my Pulse, let's say, with Harbeth speakers wouldn't sound anything other than analytical? With certain music it does sound quite organic or earthy, but other music, generally remastered stuff, it can sound a bit mechanical.
chebby said:plastic penguin said:So my Pulse, let's say, with Harbeth speakers wouldn't sound anything other than analytical? With certain music it does sound quite organic or earthy, but other music, generally remastered stuff, it can sound a bit mechanical.
I can get my head around 'analytical' (just), but you've totally lost me with 'organic', 'earthy' and 'mechanical'.
As for Harbeths, the designer has always said (over and over again) to use any amplifier that is working properly and is operated within it's designed limits.
I'm pretty sure your Leema will be fine.
plastic penguin said:chebby said:plastic penguin said:So my Pulse, let's say, with Harbeth speakers wouldn't sound anything other than analytical? With certain music it does sound quite organic or earthy, but other music, generally remastered stuff, it can sound a bit mechanical.
I can get my head around 'analytical' (just), but you've totally lost me with 'organic', 'earthy' and 'mechanical'.
As for Harbeths, the designer has always said (over and over again) to use any amplifier that is working properly and is operated within it's designed limits.
I'm pretty sure your Leema will be fine.
What I mean by "earthy" or "organic", think of vegetables. Organic veg should be grown naturally and therefore taste natural. There you have it "totally natural" sounding amp. Play disco types songs, acoustic stuff and it sounds great. However, its achilles heel is female vocals like Adele, Joss Stone or Simon & Garfunkel (remastered), Beatles (remastered) and it sounds a little cold.
Perhaps that's the compromise... don't really know, hence the question.
plastic penguin said:What I mean by "earthy" or "organic", think of vegetables. Organic veg should be grown naturally and therefore taste natural. There you have it "totally natural" sounding amp.
Covenanter said:plastic penguin said:chebby said:plastic penguin said:So my Pulse, let's say, with Harbeth speakers wouldn't sound anything other than analytical? With certain music it does sound quite organic or earthy, but other music, generally remastered stuff, it can sound a bit mechanical.
I can get my head around 'analytical' (just), but you've totally lost me with 'organic', 'earthy' and 'mechanical'.
As for Harbeths, the designer has always said (over and over again) to use any amplifier that is working properly and is operated within it's designed limits.
I'm pretty sure your Leema will be fine.
What I mean by "earthy" or "organic", think of vegetables. Organic veg should be grown naturally and therefore taste natural. There you have it "totally natural" sounding amp. Play disco types songs, acoustic stuff and it sounds great. However, its achilles heel is female vocals like Adele, Joss Stone or Simon & Garfunkel (remastered), Beatles (remastered) and it sounds a little cold.
Perhaps that's the compromise... don't really know, hence the question.
Without trying to be rude, and apologies if you think it is, why did you buy it if it sounds "cold"? Didn't you audition it?
Chris
plastic penguin said:Covenanter said:plastic penguin said:chebby said:plastic penguin said:So my Pulse, let's say, with Harbeth speakers wouldn't sound anything other than analytical? With certain music it does sound quite organic or earthy, but other music, generally remastered stuff, it can sound a bit mechanical.
I can get my head around 'analytical' (just), but you've totally lost me with 'organic', 'earthy' and 'mechanical'.
As for Harbeths, the designer has always said (over and over again) to use any amplifier that is working properly and is operated within it's designed limits.
I'm pretty sure your Leema will be fine.
What I mean by "earthy" or "organic", think of vegetables. Organic veg should be grown naturally and therefore taste natural. There you have it "totally natural" sounding amp. Play disco types songs, acoustic stuff and it sounds great. However, its achilles heel is female vocals like Adele, Joss Stone or Simon & Garfunkel (remastered), Beatles (remastered) and it sounds a little cold.
Perhaps that's the compromise... don't really know, hence the question.
Without trying to be rude, and apologies if you think it is, why did you buy it if it sounds "cold"? Didn't you audition it?
Chris
Not rude at all - as I mentioned before all equipment below silly money is going to be compromised, and the speakers I heard improve a wonderful amp. Therefore just gauging opinion on how far one thinks an amp of the Leema quality can be taken (or how close to Class A or valve amp). The other reason for mentioning Harbeth or even Sonus Fabers...
BenLaw said:plastic penguin said:Covenanter said:plastic penguin said:chebby said:plastic penguin said:So my Pulse, let's say, with Harbeth speakers wouldn't sound anything other than analytical? With certain music it does sound quite organic or earthy, but other music, generally remastered stuff, it can sound a bit mechanical.
I can get my head around 'analytical' (just), but you've totally lost me with 'organic', 'earthy' and 'mechanical'.
As for Harbeths, the designer has always said (over and over again) to use any amplifier that is working properly and is operated within it's designed limits.
I'm pretty sure your Leema will be fine.
What I mean by "earthy" or "organic", think of vegetables. Organic veg should be grown naturally and therefore taste natural. There you have it "totally natural" sounding amp. Play disco types songs, acoustic stuff and it sounds great. However, its achilles heel is female vocals like Adele, Joss Stone or Simon & Garfunkel (remastered), Beatles (remastered) and it sounds a little cold.
Perhaps that's the compromise... don't really know, hence the question.
Without trying to be rude, and apologies if you think it is, why did you buy it if it sounds "cold"? Didn't you audition it?
Chris
Not rude at all - as I mentioned before all equipment below silly money is going to be compromised, and the speakers I heard improve a wonderful amp. Therefore just gauging opinion on how far one thinks an amp of the Leema quality can be taken (or how close to Class A or valve amp). The other reason for mentioning Harbeth or even Sonus Fabers...
You say 'how close to' as though there is a pecking order with valve and class a above your leema. Some might think so, but probably a minority. More realistically, they're just different. So a good, price comparable valve amp will sound different from your leema, but not inherently better. IMO this isn't about 'taking' the quality of your amp anywhere; it's a good amp but if you want a different sound try a different one, class a and valves included.
plastic penguin said:This is why I'm asking - heard Class A amp about 2.5 years ago and valve amps a lot further back, plus these growing numbers of valve/Class A users is making me slightly paranoid.
Don't get me wrong I absolutely love the sound 'as is', but really looking to see if I can get closer to the ideal sound with speaker/source change.
Electro said:I don't think you can make any amp sound like class A if it is not class A :?
The main difference in the class A sound comes from the complete elimination of crossover distortion which is a type of distortion that can make an amplifier sound grainy and harsh .
Class A operation completely eliminates this type of distortion but at the cost of low efficiency and considerable heat output combined with large size and weight .
Just because an amplifier is a class A design it does not automatically mean it will sound better than any other type of amp ie AB / B OR D , in my opinion the quality of design and the parts used are equally important to good sound quality but CNO may not agree with my last statement .
iceman16 said:Hi PP, Have you heard the Focal 816W SE? Btw,my AMS35i still gives me some goosebumps >)