Dead ProJect Debut II

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As I've mentioned on another thread, my trusty old ProJect Debut II has died.

My other half was using it, and as she described it "I played the first side of the lp and it was a bit slow to start up, I had to give it a bit of spin. When I came to play the second side, it just wouldn't spin at all"

So now it doesn't spin at all. It's getting power, but no movement.

I suppose two questions

1. Is it repairable (and is it worth repairing)?

2. If not - what should I get to replace it?

I miss listening to my vinyl...

 

[brownz]

As I've mentioned on another thread, my trusty old ProJect Debut II has died.

My other half was using it, and as she described it "I played the first side of the lp and it was a bit slow to start up, I had to give it a bit of spin. When I came to play the second side, it just wouldn't spin at all"

So now it doesn't spin at all. It's getting power, but no movement.

I suppose two questions

1. Is it repairable (and is it worth repairing)?

2. If not - what should I get to replace it?

I miss listening to my vinyl...

Probably a motor. (disclaimers and caveats abound).
If it uses a wall wart Power Supply then it's a 16V Motor (Part Code: 1942 390 000) - £38
If it has a directly attached Power Lead then it's a 230V Motor (Part Code: 1942 790 020) - £40
https://www.henleydesigns.co.uk/Replacement-motors-p1453
You can check the Motor (ensuring you're unplugged from the mains) using a multimeter.
The motor will have two windings (top & bottom) with two wires coming out of each winding.
You should see roughly 20ohms across one winding, this should jump around when you spin the motor spindle between your fingers. Both windings should show roughly the same. There should be zero ohms between the two pairs. e.g. top winding and bottom winding - they are not connected (or at least shouldn't be!!)
Motor is fairly easy to fit if you're competent with a screwdriver and a soldering iron, if you don't fancy taking it on then you can send it to Henley for a quote (which will be price of motor from website+labour+carriage).
If you choose to do it yourself it's wise to replace the Motor Suspension Belt (Part Code: 1940 675 021) - £3.50.
https://www.henleydesigns.co.uk/Motor-Suspension-Belt-p596

 

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Sorry for the delay in replying.

Thanks for that - I think I've got a 230V supply - and I always love an excuse to get the soldering iron out...

All I need is some time to do this...

 

[Lost Angeles]

Sorry for the delay in replying.

Thanks for that - I think I've got a 230V supply - and I always love an excuse to get the soldering iron out...

All I need is some time to do this...

Well there's one way to check this although it's not recommended but I guarantee you'll know there's 230volts there. It's a good way to curl your hair though*diablo*

 

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Sorry for the delay in replying.

Thanks for that - I think I've got a 230V supply - and I always love an excuse to get the soldering iron out...

All I need is some time to do this...

Well there's one way to check this although it's not recommended but I guarantee you'll know there's 230volts there. It's a good way to curl your hair though*diablo*

So, I finally (and yes it has been a long time) got round to sorting out my Debut yesterday. Apart from being a bit time poor (with the three boys and all their probs) when I set up the tt in my study I decided to go for a clean look, so the power cable was plugged in to an extension lead behind the cabinet it sat on. The cabinet in question being a deep and tall Ikea Billy, in the middle of a run of three, screwed in place to the other two and full of stuff (including our records)... So getting the tt out involved emptying the cabinet, unscrewing it from its neighbours and hoping I could slide it out...

... which I could. At this point, it was quite late and even with the lights on I was struggling to see what I was doing, so I decided to plug a lamp into the now handy extension lead that the tt had been plugged into. The lamp came on, but as I moved it flickered. Strange. Moved it again and it flickered again...

So I checked the plug in the extension socket and it was a bit loose, shall we say. Found another extension lead and plugged the ProJect into that and it turned!

So having replaced the extension lead, pushed back the cabinet, etc. my turntable is working once more... *yahoo*

Now I just have to figure out what to spend the money I was budgeting on repair/replacement... *wink*

 

[brownz]

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Yay ! A lot of time it's the simple things !

 

[paulkebab]

upgrade some cables?? 'runs for cover'

 

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Yay ! A lot of time it's the simple things !

Yes - isn't it. At least I hadn't splashed out on a new TT...

 

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upgrade some cables?? 'runs for cover'

I've got some pretty decent chord interconnects and speaker cables on the system - and given what the system consists of:

Arcam A85
Arcam DV79
Sonos Connect
ProJect Debut II
AE Compact 1s

I think the cables are pretty well match to the system - I was wondering about updating the speakers as, although they're pretty faithful at reproducing the music they are a little too light in the bass department, and as I listen to a fair amount of rock this can be a bit of an issue. Wondering what to get with £250ish...

... ducks the cable question

 

[nopiano]

upgrade some cables?? 'runs for cover'

I've got some pretty decent chord interconnects and speaker cables on the system - and given what the system consists of:

Arcam A85Arcam DV79Sonos ConnectProJect Debut IIAE Compact 1s

I think the cables are pretty well match to the system - I was wondering about updating the speakers as, although they're pretty faithful at reproducing the music they are a little too light in the bass department, and as I listen to a fair amount of rock this can be a bit of an issue. Wondering what to get with £250ish...

... ducks the cable question

This month's magazine compared speakers up to £270, and that's a price band that has the best value hifi ever! Monitor Audio may suit your rock tastes. https://www.whathifi.com/monitor-audio/bronze-2/review

 

[Vladimir]

 

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upgrade some cables?? 'runs for cover'

I've got some pretty decent chord interconnects and speaker cables on the system - and given what the system consists of:

Arcam A85Arcam DV79Sonos ConnectProJect Debut IIAE Compact 1s

I think the cables are pretty well match to the system - I was wondering about updating the speakers as, although they're pretty faithful at reproducing the music they are a little too light in the bass department, and as I listen to a fair amount of rock this can be a bit of an issue. Wondering what to get with £250ish...

... ducks the cable question

This month's magazine compared speakers up to £270, and that's a price band that has the best value hifi ever! Monitor Audio may suit your rock tastes. https://www.whathifi.com/monitor-audio/bronze-2/review

Thanks nopiano - I had looked at that and did wonder about the bronze 2s - I've thought about them in the past... but they were a bit outside the priceband at the time. I've got a full suite of MAs attached to my AV system and, when I first bought the A85 (had it from new) it was paired with the Silver 8is... My only concern is that, like a lot of the MAs, they'll need "space to breathe" as the review puts it and these speakers do actually need to be on a bookshelf

 

[chebby]

... these speakers do actually need to be on a bookshelf

clicky

Save a bundle!

Sealed cabinets and fine against walls, on shelves etc.

The only good MA Bronzes (in my opinion) were the BR1s suprisingly. Very nice little speakers but not as nice as the JPWs in that link.

I've owned both.

 

[Al ears]

Even cheaper and very highly rated by another publication are the new Mission LX-2's