Can an OLED TV simulate Plasma TV

[Rethep]

For about 6 years now, i have a Panasonic Plasma TV, which i like very much. But the size could be bigger especially with films or (nature) documentaries. Films usually give black above and below which subtracts from the total image. Bigger tv leaves bigger visable image of course. Unfortunately they don't make plasma's anymore. And i must say that plasma has some weakness in the 'white area'.

My question: Can an OLED TV simulate the kind of 'softness' that plasma has, by lowering contrast or lowering dynamics (HDR)? Most OLED tv's in shops have very high dynamics and high intensity images which makes the image unnatural sharp to me.

 

[bigboss]

The answer is yes. I would suggest you demo at an independent retailer who has set the TV up correctly.

 

[bigboss]

The one department I find plasma to still be superior is motion. Otherwise OLED has pretty much superceded plasma in performance.

 

[Rethep]

Thx!

In the shop they said that motion has been taken care of much better in the 2017 OLED models.

I'm thinking of an LG OLED 55C7V, 4K TV. Does upscaling to 4K also improve the original HD format?

Alternative is the, much cheaper, LG 55EG9A7V, HD TV, which has a 'silver bezel'. Why do they use that?

 

[bigboss]

Thx!

In the shop they said that motion has been taken care of much better in the 2017 OLED models.

I'm thinking of an LG OLED 55C7V,  4K TV. Does upscaling to 4K also improve the original HD format?

Alternative is the, much cheaper, LG 55EG9A7V, HD TV, which has a 'silver bezel'. Why do they use that?

Motion is improving but when I demoed 2017 models, I found it to be still lacking in comparison to plasma. As long as you're happy is what matters. Yes, compared to previous generation OLEDs, it's certainly much better.

Silver bezel is just aesthetics.

 

[drummerman]

I would hope OLED can not just emulate but better Plasma ... which was far from perfect.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

I would hope OLED can not just emulate but better Plasma ... which was far from perfect.

It does. The first gen Oled was better let alone now!

 

[Rethep]

I would hope OLED can not just emulate but better Plasma ... which was far from perfect.

- Plasma is not perfect, but gives images some real depth. I have heard and seen OLED giving a very sharp, but flatter image.

- And then there is the motion problem watching football with fast panning camera's.

- And also screen burning images.

Who can tell me more about this (?), especially when you went from plasma to OLED. What are your experiences ?

 

[bigboss]

- Plasma is not perfect, but gives images some real depth. I have heard and seen OLED giving a very sharp, but flatter image.

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Not sure what that means. Not in my experience.

 

[Series1boy]

Nah, the ZT won the shootout against your 1st OLED. Myself and BB were there

 

[Rethep]

- Plasma is not perfect, but gives images some real depth. I have heard and seen OLED giving a very sharp, but flatter image.

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Not sure what that means. Not in my experience.

Compared to LCD tv's ( a bit flat, unnatural, artificial), plasma gave a real depth image for me. To me the new OLED tv's looks a bit artificial too. Also because of the HDR i think. That's why i started this subject here.

 

[bigboss]

- Plasma is not perfect, but gives images some real depth. I have heard and seen OLED giving a very sharp, but flatter image.

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Not sure what that means. Not in my experience.

Compared to LCD tv's ( a bit flat, unnatural, artificial), plasma gave a real depth image for me. To me the new OLED tv's looks a bit artificial too. Also because of the HDR i think. That's why i started this subject here.

If you set it up well (calibrate), OLED has the potential to give you the most natural looking picture. I would suggest you attend one of the TV shootouts that happen few times a year.

 

[Rethep]

Both, thx for your posts! I will seriously take them in consideration.

1st i will install an Apple-TV, and somewhere next year may be the right moment to eventually buy.

 

[emperor's new clothes]

Agree with Bigboss,

Just upgraded from much loved KURO KRP600 to the 65E7 OLED- same great deal as Gel*biggrin*

The Kuro was almost perfect out of the box and needed little tweaking. The LG is a different beast. Out of the box it is in one of those ghastly Vivid or game modes so often seen on store demos. Overblown everything and plastic-looking faces that look like a reject from a sexbot production line. There was a firmware upgrade this morning which adds a technicolour option and a sports option to the picture settings. Not played with those yet, but alegedly some motion issues have been fixed in the process. I found that turning off Trumotion (sic) and all other processing results in a fabulous picture. The WEB OS is excellent in contrast to the flakey Android ones elsewhere and the Netflix, Amazon and iPlayer apps are superb - much slicker than a firestick for example. In Cinema -expert settings- the contrast was set way too high for my taste and now beautifully -filmed 4K shows such as Bosch on Amazon and Godless on netfilix beat the KURO by some margin. Blue Planet in HDR on iPlayer is simply magnificent. Dolby Vision such as Punisher was initialy a bit OTT as contast set to 100per cent, but excellent when toned down. The "Atmos" speaker bar produces a surprising realistic soundstage for its type.

In short, if you are considering upgrading from a KURO/Panny plasma - I was very sceptical - you won't be disappointed. Beware showroom settings. I saw an expensive 65G7 next to a 55B7 side by side with off-air HD feed and the B7 was easily the better picture. All down to the set up and most sales persons are sadly utterly clueless.

 

[Benedict_Arnold]

TVs in retail stores are usually set on a "retail" mode or some such where the picture is deliberately brightened to make that TV stand out amongst all the others. Kind of self defeating when all the TVs are set that way, but...

See if you can get the salesman to turn off that mode and put the TV you're looking at on amore normal, domestic mode.