Hello, I want to upgrade my sound system, I am thinking of either doing the following: dual 840a or a dual 650a .
Which is better?
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Which is better?
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Cambridge audio : 840a vs 650a
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matthewpiano
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I'd want a better amp than either of those for the Performance 6 speakers. Those beauties need something of the Plinius level to make them sing.
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MilkyJoe:The 840A is top class. Give it a listen.
Not disputing that but it isn't good enough for the Performance 6 speakers.
Not disputing that but it isn't good enough for the Performance 6 speakers.
The Mordaunt Short Performance 6 speakers are top quality speakers deserving the best amp and source you can afford. If you want to keep it british I'd start by looking at the top of the range Cyrus & Naim kit.
Alternatively you may want to re-appraise your speaker choice to provide a better match to your source and amp.
Alternatively you may want to re-appraise your speaker choice to provide a better match to your source and amp.
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fpsasm:How about Cyrus then? I wanna keep it british
Depends on how 'British' you want your gear. Cambridge Audio are a British based company that design their equipment here and manufacture it in China. Arcam are a UK based company that manufacture some items in China and some here. Not sure about Cyrus. Never had to think about them really.
Depends on how 'British' you want your gear. Cambridge Audio are a British based company that design their equipment here and manufacture it in China. Arcam are a UK based company that manufacture some items in China and some here. Not sure about Cyrus. Never had to think about them really.
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fpsasm:mission 734+735 atm, then upgrading to something like Mordaunt Short Perforamce 6
I'm afraid you're slightly thinking above your post. The MS Performance 6 retails at around £3,500, so what amp and CDP, realistically, are you looking to drive them with?
If I'm putting a spoke in your wheels, I apologise, but don't even think of anything below the two grand mark.
I'm afraid you're slightly thinking above your post. The MS Performance 6 retails at around £3,500, so what amp and CDP, realistically, are you looking to drive them with?
If I'm putting a spoke in your wheels, I apologise, but don't even think of anything below the two grand mark.
plastic penguin:
fpsasm:mission 734+735 atm, then upgrading to something like Mordaunt Short Perforamce 6
I'm afraid you're slightly thinking above your post. The MS Performance 6 retails at around £3,500, so what amp and CDP, realistically, are you looking to drive them with?
If I'm putting a spoke in your wheels, I apologise, but don't even think of anything below the two grand mark.
Do you think a bi-amped Cyrus setup would be suffice..
p.s i dont wanna buy non-bristish. and i know how much MS-P6 retail at...
fpsasm:mission 734+735 atm, then upgrading to something like Mordaunt Short Perforamce 6
I'm afraid you're slightly thinking above your post. The MS Performance 6 retails at around £3,500, so what amp and CDP, realistically, are you looking to drive them with?
If I'm putting a spoke in your wheels, I apologise, but don't even think of anything below the two grand mark.
Do you think a bi-amped Cyrus setup would be suffice..
p.s i dont wanna buy non-bristish. and i know how much MS-P6 retail at...
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I'd be looking at the Leema Tucana II as a possibility, and also the Sugden A21SE.
If you fancy a Cyrus system then why not look at Spendor speakers instead?
If you fancy a Cyrus system then why not look at Spendor speakers instead?
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fpsasm:plastic penguin:
fpsasm:mission 734+735 atm, then upgrading to something like Mordaunt Short Perforamce 6
I'm afraid you're slightly thinking above your post. The MS Performance 6 retails at around £3,500, so what amp and CDP, realistically, are you looking to drive them with?
If I'm putting a spoke in your wheels, I apologise, but don't even think of anything below the two grand mark.
Do you think a bi-amped Cyrus setup would be suffice..
p.s i dont wanna buy non-bristish. and i know how much MS-P6 retail at...
Personal opinion?....NO! All amps will suffice, but spending below 2K mark won't get anywhere the best out of them. Cyrus is too bright. You'd be better off with lesser speakers and having a more balanced set-up.
Carrying on from what Chebby said, and quite rightly, you'll be better off whistling in the wind. Very few makes I know of are totally British. Unless, you want to buy pre-1975 stuff. Sorry, not being facetious, just reality.....
fpsasm:mission 734+735 atm, then upgrading to something like Mordaunt Short Perforamce 6
I'm afraid you're slightly thinking above your post. The MS Performance 6 retails at around £3,500, so what amp and CDP, realistically, are you looking to drive them with?
If I'm putting a spoke in your wheels, I apologise, but don't even think of anything below the two grand mark.
Do you think a bi-amped Cyrus setup would be suffice..
p.s i dont wanna buy non-bristish. and i know how much MS-P6 retail at...
Personal opinion?....NO! All amps will suffice, but spending below 2K mark won't get anywhere the best out of them. Cyrus is too bright. You'd be better off with lesser speakers and having a more balanced set-up.
Carrying on from what Chebby said, and quite rightly, you'll be better off whistling in the wind. Very few makes I know of are totally British. Unless, you want to buy pre-1975 stuff. Sorry, not being facetious, just reality.....
Cambrdige Audio, as stated, design in UK and manufacture in China as do Audiolab...
Arcam manufacture everything except their tuners in the UK....
I understand the impulse to support British companies and the three that spring to mind are Arcam, Sugden and Naim... although you could also go for Meridian, Quad (do they manufacture abroad?), Linn and Myryad...
In the globalised world, under the present economic circumstances, I understand the desire to buy British made products from British manufacturers... but it is a rather 1970's concept... many of the 'British' firms are owned by foreign investors and even if you do buy British made hi fi try to bear in mind that it is only British constructed... the chances are that the parts were manufactured and imported... I am not saying do not do it, I am just saying contextualise your efforts because, although it should be a consideration, at the end of the day, hi fi is about listening to music...
This guys definition of 'British' appears to be 'started in Britain' or 'British based' rather than 'British manufactured' still it may give you some ideas...
LINK
Arcam manufacture everything except their tuners in the UK....
I understand the impulse to support British companies and the three that spring to mind are Arcam, Sugden and Naim... although you could also go for Meridian, Quad (do they manufacture abroad?), Linn and Myryad...
In the globalised world, under the present economic circumstances, I understand the desire to buy British made products from British manufacturers... but it is a rather 1970's concept... many of the 'British' firms are owned by foreign investors and even if you do buy British made hi fi try to bear in mind that it is only British constructed... the chances are that the parts were manufactured and imported... I am not saying do not do it, I am just saying contextualise your efforts because, although it should be a consideration, at the end of the day, hi fi is about listening to music...
This guys definition of 'British' appears to be 'started in Britain' or 'British based' rather than 'British manufactured' still it may give you some ideas...
LINK
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plastic penguin:Isn't Naim all British?
What every capacitor and op-amp... every last component and piece of sheet metal sourced and manufactured exclusively in the UK?
I am not saying that they are not but if they did do that it would be an impressive feat and would, certainly, explain some of their pricing...
What every capacitor and op-amp... every last component and piece of sheet metal sourced and manufactured exclusively in the UK?
I am not saying that they are not but if they did do that it would be an impressive feat and would, certainly, explain some of their pricing...
matthewpiano:Leema Acoustics are British too - Welsh, in fact.
Yeah, think that you may be missing my point here...
Yeah, think that you may be missing my point here...
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plastic penguin:Isn't Naim all British?
What every capacitor and op-amp... every last component and piece of sheet metal sourced and manufactured exclusively in the UK?
I am not saying that they are not but if they did do that it would be an impressive feat and would, certainly, explain some of their pricing...
Does your shoes say 'Made in England'? if they do, the chances of the leather hyde being sourced in mainland UK is remote. That's taking it to extremes, and the same applies for hi-fis.
Naim, I would suggest, is more British than most brands....
plastic penguin:Isn't Naim all British?
What every capacitor and op-amp... every last component and piece of sheet metal sourced and manufactured exclusively in the UK?
I am not saying that they are not but if they did do that it would be an impressive feat and would, certainly, explain some of their pricing...
Does your shoes say 'Made in England'? if they do, the chances of the leather hyde being sourced in mainland UK is remote. That's taking it to extremes, and the same applies for hi-fis.
Naim, I would suggest, is more British than most brands....
plastic penguin:bloatedgut:
plastic penguin:Isn't Naim all British?
What every capacitor and op-amp... every last component and piece of sheet metal sourced and manufactured exclusively in the UK?
I am not saying that they are not but if they did do that it would be an impressive feat and would, certainly, explain some of their pricing...
Does your shoes say 'Made in England'? if they do, the chances of the leather hyde being sourced in mainland UK is remote. That's taking it to extremes, and the same applies for hi-fis.
Naim, I would suggest, is more British than most brands....
Definitely missing my point... and getting snotty and defensive about Naim... what is it about Naim owners that they are so sensitive. Could you explain how Naim are 'more' British than any other British brand who manufacture their components in the UK?
plastic penguin:Isn't Naim all British?
What every capacitor and op-amp... every last component and piece of sheet metal sourced and manufactured exclusively in the UK?
I am not saying that they are not but if they did do that it would be an impressive feat and would, certainly, explain some of their pricing...
Does your shoes say 'Made in England'? if they do, the chances of the leather hyde being sourced in mainland UK is remote. That's taking it to extremes, and the same applies for hi-fis.
Naim, I would suggest, is more British than most brands....
Definitely missing my point... and getting snotty and defensive about Naim... what is it about Naim owners that they are so sensitive. Could you explain how Naim are 'more' British than any other British brand who manufacture their components in the UK?
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Not missing any point. I think we have to accept that components, or even whole units, are going to be manufactured elsewhere, but this kit is at least designed and engineered in the UK.
Personally I don't think it matters. To me its all about achieving the best sound and limiting the party to 'British' components (in the broad sense) seems to be shutting down quite a lot of very capable options.
Personally I don't think it matters. To me its all about achieving the best sound and limiting the party to 'British' components (in the broad sense) seems to be shutting down quite a lot of very capable options.
matthewpiano:Not missing any point. I think we have to accept that components, or even whole units, are going to be manufactured elsewhere, but this kit is at least designed and engineered in the UK.
Personally I don't think it matters. To me its all about achieving the best sound and limiting the party to 'British' components (in the broad sense) seems to be shutting down quite a lot of very capable options.
That is my point... re-read what I wrote... the bit where I advised the fella that whilst it is a consideration it is not that important as hi fi is about listening to music... so the fact that you did not understand what I was saying would imply you rather missed it... no?
Personally I don't think it matters. To me its all about achieving the best sound and limiting the party to 'British' components (in the broad sense) seems to be shutting down quite a lot of very capable options.
That is my point... re-read what I wrote... the bit where I advised the fella that whilst it is a consideration it is not that important as hi fi is about listening to music... so the fact that you did not understand what I was saying would imply you rather missed it... no?
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plastic penguin:Isn't Naim all British?
What every capacitor and op-amp... every last component and piece of sheet metal sourced and manufactured exclusively in the UK?
I am not saying that they are not but if they did do that it would be an impressive feat and would, certainly, explain some of their pricing...
Does your shoes say 'Made in England'? if they do, the chances of the leather hyde being sourced in mainland UK is remote. That's taking it to extremes, and the same applies for hi-fis.
Naim, I would suggest, is more British than most brands....
Definitely missing my point... and getting snotty and defensive about Naim... what is it about Naim owners that they are so sensitive. Could you explain how Naim are 'more' British than any other British brand who manufacture their components in the UK?
Firstly, I'm not snotty about the whole subject. Secondly, if you look at my sig below, you'll see I'm not a Naim owner.
This doesn't apply just audio equipment, but most things we use every day - and stuff we take for granted.
plastic penguin:Isn't Naim all British?
What every capacitor and op-amp... every last component and piece of sheet metal sourced and manufactured exclusively in the UK?
I am not saying that they are not but if they did do that it would be an impressive feat and would, certainly, explain some of their pricing...
Does your shoes say 'Made in England'? if they do, the chances of the leather hyde being sourced in mainland UK is remote. That's taking it to extremes, and the same applies for hi-fis.
Naim, I would suggest, is more British than most brands....
Definitely missing my point... and getting snotty and defensive about Naim... what is it about Naim owners that they are so sensitive. Could you explain how Naim are 'more' British than any other British brand who manufacture their components in the UK?
Firstly, I'm not snotty about the whole subject. Secondly, if you look at my sig below, you'll see I'm not a Naim owner.
This doesn't apply just audio equipment, but most things we use every day - and stuff we take for granted.
plastic penguin:bloatedgut:plastic penguin:bloatedgut:
plastic penguin:Isn't Naim all British?
What every capacitor and op-amp... every last component and piece of sheet metal sourced and manufactured exclusively in the UK?
I am not saying that they are not but if they did do that it would be an impressive feat and would, certainly, explain some of their pricing...
Does your shoes say 'Made in England'? if they do, the chances of the leather hyde being sourced in mainland UK is remote. That's taking it to extremes, and the same applies for hi-fis.
Naim, I would suggest, is more British than most brands....
Definitely missing my point... and getting snotty and defensive about Naim... what is it about Naim owners that they are so sensitive. Could you explain how Naim are 'more' British than any other British brand who manufacture their components in the UK?
Firstly, I'm not snotty about the whole subject. Secondly, if you look at my sig below, you'll see I'm not a Naim owner.
This doesn't apply just audio equipment, but most things we use every day - and stuff we take for granted.
I agree... so what is your problem?
plastic penguin:Isn't Naim all British?
What every capacitor and op-amp... every last component and piece of sheet metal sourced and manufactured exclusively in the UK?
I am not saying that they are not but if they did do that it would be an impressive feat and would, certainly, explain some of their pricing...
Does your shoes say 'Made in England'? if they do, the chances of the leather hyde being sourced in mainland UK is remote. That's taking it to extremes, and the same applies for hi-fis.
Naim, I would suggest, is more British than most brands....
Definitely missing my point... and getting snotty and defensive about Naim... what is it about Naim owners that they are so sensitive. Could you explain how Naim are 'more' British than any other British brand who manufacture their components in the UK?
Firstly, I'm not snotty about the whole subject. Secondly, if you look at my sig below, you'll see I'm not a Naim owner.
This doesn't apply just audio equipment, but most things we use every day - and stuff we take for granted.
I agree... so what is your problem?
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matthewpiano:Not missing any point. I think we have to accept that components, or even whole units, are going to be manufactured elsewhere, but this kit is at least designed and engineered in the UK.
Personally I don't think it matters. To me its all about achieving the best sound and limiting the party to 'British' components (in the broad sense) seems to be shutting down quite a lot of very capable options.
That is my point... re-read what I wrote... the bit where I advised the fella that whilst it is a consideration it is not that important as hi fi is about listening to music... so the fact that you did not understand what I was saying would imply you rather missed it... no?
I understood perfectly and am agreeing with you. I'm also trying to help add to the list of brands that might be considered British in the broad sense. For some people its an important issue, though like you I don't really understand why.
matthewpiano:Not missing any point. I think we have to accept that components, or even whole units, are going to be manufactured elsewhere, but this kit is at least designed and engineered in the UK.
Personally I don't think it matters. To me its all about achieving the best sound and limiting the party to 'British' components (in the broad sense) seems to be shutting down quite a lot of very capable options.
That is my point... re-read what I wrote... the bit where I advised the fella that whilst it is a consideration it is not that important as hi fi is about listening to music... so the fact that you did not understand what I was saying would imply you rather missed it... no?
I understood perfectly and am agreeing with you. I'm also trying to help add to the list of brands that might be considered British in the broad sense. For some people its an important issue, though like you I don't really understand why.
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