I have now decided on the audition list for my new system. Thanks to everyone who who contributed to my original post asking for suggestions. http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/new-speakers-and-amp The audition list will be Speakers KEF Q300 My original choice based on reading reviews and forum comments Dynaudio 2/6 MS RX1 Amps Brio R Marantz PM6003 Rotel 04SE I have discounted the Yamaha AS500 and NAD 326BEE as they won't give the sound I am looking for. The maximum budget is about £450 each for amp and speakers. I will buy the speakers first and then buy the amp. I then started thinking about buying secondhand and saw on ebay that a pair of KEFQ300's had gone for £270, a Creek Evo 1 went for £350, a Brio 3 was available for £150 including 6 mth warranty and Marantz PM6003's go for about £150. Am I likely to get a better amp by buying a secondhand, perhps not the latest model , of a more expensive amp rather than the latest model of a budget amp. Also what am I going to get by spending £150 on a Brio 3 compared to £480 on a Brio R ? I would be interested in views