Bookshelf Vs Floorstanders, no context in my experience.

[Al ears]

As I read that, I thought Mosecco 6s was a breed of cat - one third filled with Atabites 😁

Seriously, some floorstanders are surely (at least) as vulnerable to sideways pushes as stands.

Unfortunately they are. My wife managed to clobber one of mine and down it went.
Lovely lacquer now missing on corner of one of them.
Currently looking to get the extended base set for them......
My standmounts would have fared better.

 

[Al ears]

Thanks for the suggestion Gray. I have two Maine C**n cats 11kg and 10kg about the size of a small dog! It might work 🙂

Did I mention Maine Coons..... ??
To be fair filled stands with bluetacked speakers sat on them are less vulnerable than some floorstanders that do not have extended bases.

 

[Jasonovich]

Did I mention Maine Coons..... ??

The last time I mentioned the non-redacted version of the name, the moderator asterisk the two OOs.
So I thought, play it safe 🙂

 

[Al ears]

The last time I mentioned the non-redacted version of the name, the moderator asterisk the two OOs.
So I thought, play it safe 🙂

Yes, the algorithm is a fickle thing.....

 

[davidf]

As I read that, I thought Mosecco 6s was a breed of cat - one third filled with Atabites 😁

No wonder they weigh 10/11kg...

 

[record_spot]

Active standmount speakers plus subwoofer. Amazing.

 

[Pedro2]

Active standmount speakers plus subwoofer. Amazing.

Maybe I should stick with my active standmount Elacs + sub. Maybe adding a second sub would be even better? Or is this another can of worms?

 

[nopiano]

Maybe I should stick with my active standmount Elacs + sub. Maybe adding a second sub would be even better? Or is this another can of worms?

Another challenge to set up, I guess. Some folks swear by dual subs, and I’m sure plenty others swear *at* them! 😂

 

[Jasonovich]

Maybe I should stick with my active standmount Elacs + sub. Maybe adding a second sub would be even better? Or is this another can of worms?

Do you have enough oooompfh from your SW?
Adding another just means you're getting OOOOMPFH instead of oooompfh 🙂

Might be worth it if it's lacking a bit in the low frequencies or false economy if you're already getting the desired outcome? 🙂

 

[abacus]

Maybe I should stick with my active standmount Elacs + sub. Maybe adding a second sub would be even better? Or is this another can of worms?

If you are still having room problems that 1 sub cannot fix, then by all means go for 2 which will even the balance up.

Bill

 

[record_spot]

Maybe I should stick with my active standmount Elacs + sub. Maybe adding a second sub would be even better? Or is this another can of worms?

1. That's a decision for you to make!

2. Depends. Do you have a large room? Mine is pretty big and I've no issues with just one subwoofer. Plus, I have neighbours.

3. Needn't be. I've had floorstanders before and might get some active ones again in the future, but there's no pressing urgency for me just now. The current speaker setup's working a treat.

 

[Revolutions]

If you start getting more subs that speakers, then I can only imagine we're talking about my brother's old Fiesta XR2 😊

 

[Al ears]

If you start getting more subs that speakers, then I can only imagine we're talking about my brother's old Fiesta XR2 😊

True.
Subwoofer type frequencies are pretty much omnidirectional so if you really need one simply get one large enough for your room.
Getting two smaller ones is basically uneconomic.

 

[FMIB]

I started with stand mounts, upgraded a few times until I switched to floor standers , again making an upgrade, whilst the bass was plenty, it was becoming a bit overpowering for my room and listening was no longer enjoyable as I was missing the clarity and detail I prefer.
Maybe it's ok for some that can pull their speakers yards into the room, but many people can't.
I then switched back to a higher end stand mounts and have never enjoyed my music more.

My amplification has aways been of good quality, so I can't point the finger there. My current pre/power combo spec as below and the speakers sing beautifully, with sufficient low end for me

• 2 x 710 watts @ 4 Ohms
• 2 x 400 watts @ 8 Ohms

Of course, everyone's room is different, same for how people like to hear their music. The amount of cars on the road where all you can hear is boom boom boom, in someways says how many like to hear their music.
In my case stand mounts are preferable, if my room was significantly bigger, neighbours never existed, perhaps I would switch back, but from my previous experience it would probably need a significant amount of money spent on floor standers to better what I had before.

 

[RJW232]

It all depends on the room.
Floor standers can excite room modes giving very woolly or boomy sound and therefore a bookshelf speaker is the way to go in that instance.
A subwoofer (Whether you have floor standers or bookshelf) is also a must, as it can be positioned optimally to improve bass without exciting room modes. (NOTE: You should not hear the sub only the speakers, but you will notice if you turn it off)

Bill

Not sure if it was already mentioned, but this site https://amcoustics.com/tools/amroc is a very good tool to calculate room modes, and than generate the room modes frequencies to experience the problems. It gave me lot of insights in this matter. However still not able to solve everything. We also have to live in this room...

 

[daytona600]

Big speakers can work in small rooms

 

[Al ears]

Big speakers can work in small rooms
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can fit is more like it. Actually work well? I doubt it......

 

[froze]

If you're an apartment dweller you probably should stay away from floor speakers and subwoofers, you will piss off neighbors in a hurry, and could get evicted.

But if you own a separate home, meaning not a townhouse of condo, then to get the best sound floor speakers are the only way to make noise.

That's not to say there aren't some great sounding bookshelf speakers, but for the cost of those you can get superior sound from the floor speakers. Some wives will fight you over something as large as floor speakers, so there is that! Also some rooms are too small to carry what a floor speaker can do, so you have to consider the size of the room to get a better fit for speakers; even a medium size room with very large floor speakers won't work correctly.

 

[record_spot]

Superior sound from floorstanders?

Interesting claim. I used to think that too. Mission 752s, Sansui AU-717 and the 217 amps, Marantz SA7001-KI. I loved this setup. Brilliant sound.

And if you need to shift a lot of bass, or to a degree, scale, then a floorstander is one way to do it. The Eggleston Works pair I heard recently were pretty damn impressive and see also the Alchris Audio and PMCs too.

On the other hand, standmount aren't short of talent either. They'll often image better, and aren't short of scale and dynamics especially in the larger models. Adding a subwoofer and trimming the sub's input to blend in rather than just bludgeon the overall presentation makes for an even more satisfying whole.

There's no right or wrong answer here. It's down to taste, preferences, available room size and budget.

Pound for pound? These days though, I'd take standmount speakers, active at that, and add the sub. Tremendous pairing.

 

[Al ears]

Superior sound from floorstanders?

Interesting claim. I used to think that too. Mission 752s, Sansui AU-717 and the 217 amps, Marantz SA7001-KI. I loved this setup. Brilliant sound.

And if you need to shift a lot of bass, or to a degree, scale, then a floorstander is one way to do it. The Eggleston Works pair I heard recently were pretty damn impressive and see also the Alchris Audio and PMCs too.

On the other hand, standmount aren't short of talent either. They'll often image better, and aren't short of scale and dynamics especially in the larger models. Adding a subwoofer and trimming the sub's input to blend in rather than just bludgeon the overall presentation makes for an even more satisfying whole.

There's no right or wrong answer here. It's down to taste, preferences, available room size and budget.

Pound for pound? These days though, I'd take standmount speakers, active at that, and add the sub. Tremendous pairing.

I do agree with most of your points however when it comes to economics it often doesn't make sense.
You mentioned adding a sub to standmounts, well that and the price of decent stands added to the price of the standmounts will often push things into really good floorstander territory.

 

[record_spot]

I do agree with most of your points however when it comes to economics it often doesn't make sense.
You mentioned adding a sub to standmounts, well that and the price of decent stands added to the price of the standmounts will often push things into really good floorstander territory.

If you want to spend hundreds on stands that's up to you, they needn't be, but that's the world of price inflated accessories in the hobby.

Like I said, depends on what you want.