BLU RAY & UPSCALED DVD

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Hi all new member, Was a member but 4got password so re-registered.

Can anyone tell me if i should notice much difference between upscaled standard dvd or blu ray as my ps3 and blu ray upscale them to a very high quality anyway. I can only see a difference if im a couple of inches away from the screen the clarity but we sit about 3 metres away. By the way this is my system so far!!!!

Sony KDL40W4000 tv

Sony PS3 (60gb)

SKY HD COMING END OF MONTH

Sony BDPS350 Blu Ray Player

QED HDMI-P Running blu ray and ps3

Jamo 102 speaker idod dock 2 sats 1 sub system Sounds good but not got full surround yet (SAVING!)

Thanks D

 

[professorhat]

Not too sure what you're asking here. Are you meaning should you see a difference between your PS3 and your BDP-S350 or should you see a difference between Blu-Ray and upscaled DVD?

 

[Anonymous]

bluray and upscaled dvds

 

[professorhat]

Hmm, well you say you can't, so I'm not sure of the relevance, but I definitely can see a big difference between upscaled DVDs and Blu-Rays on my PS3 from 10-12 feet on my 42" screen.

 

[aliEnRIK]

Id guess you have 'digital noise reduction' switched on, or suchlike, which will deteriorate the picture quality.

 

[Gerrardasnails]

professorhat:Hmm, well you say you can't, so I'm not sure of the relevance, but I definitely can see a big difference between upscaled DVDs and Blu-Rays on my PS3 from 10-12 feet on my 42" screen.

I've been watching blurays all weekend (for the first time). The difference is startling. My BD player upscales dvds at least as good as my old Denon 1940 but bluray picture is a huge leap.

 

[Anonymous]

The picture may be nice and crisp on upscaled dvd's but with BluRay disks
there is more fine detail apparent.

 

[rob_981]

I have noise reduction turned on to high, but blu ray is so much better than even upscaled dvd it's not true. Can I ask however, why, if TV's have this technology such as noise reduction, etc, why would you want to switch it off? Should it not improve the picture? Or would it only be certain types of picture that it would improve, such as SD pictures? I would just like to know what to look out for if I try turning it off - what picture improvements will I notice?

 

[Anonymous]

colinbw:The picture may be nice and crisp on upscaled dvd's but with BluRay disks
there is more fine detail apparent.

Can't say I've ever seen an upscaled DVD look sharp. They generally look pretty soft due to being interpolated up tot he native res of the panel.

rob_981:I have noise reduction turned on to high, but blu
ray is so much better than even upscaled dvd it's not true. Can I ask
however, why, if TV's have this technology such as noise reduction,
etc, why would you want to switch it off? Should it not improve the
picture? Or would it only be certain types of picture that it would
improve, such as SD pictures? I would just like to know what to look
out for if I try turning it off - what picture improvements will I
notice?

Noise reduction hides detail that is supposed to be part of the picture. For SD video sources it can make blocky, grainy sources look a little more acceptable, but I wouldn't have it turned on when watching BDs (actually, I wouldn't have it on full stop).

 

[rob_981]

And what about pictures through a V+ box which are upscaled? Would you recommend turning it off then too? I will try it and see which I prefer of course - just want someone else's opinion too.

 

[Anonymous]

I only have the standard def Virgin service, but I don't have any of the DNR settings and the like turned on. They make the picture look a bit odd (waxy faces etc). It's a personal choice though, so experiment to see which setting you find most agreeable. I would test it on a variety of sources though.

 

[Anonymous]

DNR of any kind distorts the picture, flattens out detail, and generally adds a level of processing that's not required under normal circumstances. This is particularly apparent on BD. Noise reduction can remove flesh detail, for example and make faces look overly made-up and filled in (you know, Like Nicola from Girls Aloud....).
To my mind DNR is only really of use with broadcast pictures in weak signal areas... and even then.....
Oh, and another thing....
Given that some discs have DNR applied during the mastering process (not a good thing either, to my mind) then adding it on again through your TV REALLY makes the image like cakk....
Maybe we should create a BLACK LIST of overly processed discs with excessive DNR or edge enhancement?

 

[Andy Grange]

I don't have a blu-ray player, but the difference between my upscaled dvd's and movies on Sky HD are pretty noticeable. That's on a (reasonably) old Toshiba 32WLT66 as well, I imagine a newer TV and a blu-ray player would be a bigger difference.

 

[rob_981]

Casca:DNR of any kind distorts the picture, flattens out detail, and generally adds a level of processing that's not required under normal circumstances. This is particularly apparent on BD. Noise reduction can remove flesh detail, for example and make faces look overly made-up and filled in (you know, Like Nicola from Girls Aloud....).

Nope, don't know who she is....

I try to stay away from those manufactured "bands" if I can.

Casca: To my mind DNR is only really of use with broadcast pictures in weak signal areas... and even then..... Oh, and another thing.... Given that some discs have DNR applied during the mastering process (not a good thing either, to my mind) then adding it on again through your TV REALLY makes the image like cakk.... Maybe we should create a BLACK LIST of overly processed discs with excessive DNR or edge enhancement?

Yep, I took the advice on here and tried turning DNR and a lot of the other settings down yesterday, and the difference was like night and day. Much better picture now through V+, and I will try it out with Heroes on Blu Ray tonight.