nopiano
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StarCraft said:
It means trying to avoid the whole desk vibrating like a giant membrane, blurring the sound, or (more simply) preventing rattles and buzzes which will spoil your listening.
Think how much more solid a floor is than a desk. Jump up and down on each if you think I'm kidding!
AlmaataKZ said:
I like the ADM9 speakers they are better than the Adam speakers in some ways but the tweeter on the Adams sounds nicer to my ears and I like the look of the Adams more.
I have heard the Adam Artist 5 speakers and like them but the more expensive Adam S1X sounds a bit better in every way and is almost the same size. The Adam X-Art tweeters are the best that I have heard. Do any other speakers use X-Art tweeters.
The Genelecs sound good but the tweeter is a bit sharp next to the Adams tweeter. Genelec speakers have been hit with a big fugly stick to.
I liked some of the cheap Dynaaudio speakers but not as much as my Yamaha speakers. I would like to listen to some expensive ones and will look out for the Xeo 3 and 110a. Thanks.
nopiano said:
The desk is solid and does not seem to make any noises. I will have a look at the Auralex Mopads that Cnoevil said about.
hoopsontoast said:
I think I need a subwoofer because the speakers need to be small to fit on a desk but I want to have lots of bass. This bass from my Yamaha subwoofer sounds like it is coming from the 2 speakers on the desk even though the subwoofer is hidden under a table in the corner of the room away from the other speakers.
I want speakers that go very loud with lots of bass and they might also be used for a house party sometimes.
With the Adam S1X and Sub 10 there is 2 different settings. 1 for the best sound quality and 1 for the max volume. For the best sound you have all of the music and bass going to the little S1X speakers and keep the subwoofer volume turned down low to add a little bit of extra bass for the deep sounds. This sounds good quality but does not go very loud. To make them go loud you use a 85hz switch on the subwoofer that stops the bass going to the S1X speakers and all the bass comes out of the subwoofer with its volume turned up high.
The Kef R100 and LS50 look good but the R300 will be to big for my desk. I will listen to the R100 and LS50 with the Kef subwoofer to see what they are like. I will look out for the ATC SCM7 and Bel Canto S300 to. Thanks.
StarCraft said:
NP has explained my concern above. A speaker's vibrations will be transmitted into what ever it's sitting on. This is fine if it's spiked into a concrete foor, as the unwanted resonances are "sunk" into the mass of concrete.
If what the speaker is sitting on causes any sort of booming or smearing, the speaker needs isolated, or de-coupled from it. How much your desk will effect the sound will depend on what it's made of, how heavy/solid it is and if there are any drawers/storage areas built into it, which will act as resonance chambers and sing along with the speaker.
De-coupling materials include Blu-tac, Granite, Sorbothane, Acousic Foam (Mopads), and filling the stands with materials like rice.
Coupling happens with the use of spikes and metal stands.
Paying attention to this could make or break the sound you will get.
Hope this helps
Cno
Thanks for the advice. I will bare this in mind and try any new speakers at home on my desk before I buy them with different stands and de-coupling materials to hear what differance it makes to the sound.
My desk is heavy and solid wood with some draws in it and my bedroom floor is normal wooden floorboards.
My desk is heavy and solid wood with some draws in it and my bedroom floor is normal wooden floorboards.
Covenanter
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It's good advice! The biggest individual gain I got on my system was when I fitted the spikes and spike shoes, it really cleaned up the sound.
Chris
Chris
How about a pair of Golden Ears Aon 3? A steal at £1000. will offer all the bass you need and the lovely higher frequencies withe the ribbon tweeterStarCraft said:
gbhsi1 said:
not to mention Golder Ear's tweeter is infact x-art tweeter. or should I say x-art tweeter is Heil A.V.T. tweeter and Golden Ear's H.V.F.R. tweeter is also Heil A.V.T. type.
Those Golden Ears speakers look good. The X-Art tweeter is what I like most with the Adam speakers so I want to listen to the Golden Ears ribbon tweeter. Thanks gbhsi1.
Your upgrading very fast. Give yourself some time to enjoy what you have!
If you still can't wait: Cheap (secondhand or old stock) Creek Destiny-1 amp, and Epos Epic 2 or Kef R300. You don't need a sub in that small room; place the speakers in the wright spot.
If you still can't wait: Cheap (secondhand or old stock) Creek Destiny-1 amp, and Epos Epic 2 or Kef R300. You don't need a sub in that small room; place the speakers in the wright spot.
Yes I am upgrading fast. This is because the Yamaha speakers have given me a taste of good sound and now I want more now I want the best. I do enjoy the Yamaha speakers and they will not be wasted because my dad will use them in his office with a Roland DAC. What ever speakers I get next will be keeping for a long time because I am taking driving lessons and will have less money to spend.
I have not heard the Creek Destiny 1 or Epos Epic 2 so will look out for them at the weekend. I have listened to the Kef speakers with a Marants amplifier and they are good but not as good as the Yamaha speakers which sound more in focus than the Kefs.
I do not mind having speakers that do not need a subwoofer. On the Yamaha subwoofer the volume is set very low so that I can only just hear it. The difference it makes to the sound of the speakers is small but it does make them sound bigger and heavier which is what I like. It is also good when watching TV.
I have not heard the Creek Destiny 1 or Epos Epic 2 so will look out for them at the weekend. I have listened to the Kef speakers with a Marants amplifier and they are good but not as good as the Yamaha speakers which sound more in focus than the Kefs.
I do not mind having speakers that do not need a subwoofer. On the Yamaha subwoofer the volume is set very low so that I can only just hear it. The difference it makes to the sound of the speakers is small but it does make them sound bigger and heavier which is what I like. It is also good when watching TV.
Today I have bought some Adam ARTist 6 floorstanding speakers in gloss black with the matching Adam ARTist Sub for £1224.
Before buying these I spent 3 months listening to speakers and amplifiers in shops every weekend. I was willing to spend as much as £2000 to get the best sound but after comparing the ARTist 6 to other speakers at this price I didnt hear anything that I like better.
I had to move the desk out of my room so that the floorstanding ARTist 6 speakers would fit in here and the TV is now on the wall between the speakers. I also tried bigger Adam subwoofers which were better in the living room downstairs but in my little bedroom the ARTist subwoofer sounds just as good and was cheaper.
Before buying these I spent 3 months listening to speakers and amplifiers in shops every weekend. I was willing to spend as much as £2000 to get the best sound but after comparing the ARTist 6 to other speakers at this price I didnt hear anything that I like better.
I had to move the desk out of my room so that the floorstanding ARTist 6 speakers would fit in here and the TV is now on the wall between the speakers. I also tried bigger Adam subwoofers which were better in the living room downstairs but in my little bedroom the ARTist subwoofer sounds just as good and was cheaper.
Thanks
The ARTist 6 speakers sound brilliant. They are really tiny for floorstanding speakers. 33.5" tall x 5.5" wide and work well in my bedroom. The matching ARTist subwoofer has all the bass I could want in such a small space.
The ARTist 6 speakers sound brilliant. They are really tiny for floorstanding speakers. 33.5" tall x 5.5" wide and work well in my bedroom. The matching ARTist subwoofer has all the bass I could want in such a small space.
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