Anti-mode for a subwoofer

steve_1979

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I don't feel that I really have the need for it as the bass already sounds perfect from my listening position. But I do wonder if it could be made even more perfecterer. :D
 

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steve_1979 said:
David@FrankHarvey said:
Excellently!
Do you have any suggestions for any cheap (possibly secondhand) options that are worth trying?

Do you mean in the Antimode one up? Or alternatives?

Bass can be deceiving. I use two subs with no EQ, and it sounds fine. I have auditioned an Antimode at home before and it made a surprising difference. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't under the impression that my bass was perfect or that it didn't need EQ'ing, but I never really felt it needed it. Despite that, it did improve it - it will take a little getting used to for many. After taking it back out of my system, I've never really been in a rush to add one to my system permanently, but I do appreciate that my system will benefit from it. Even though AV receivers have EQ, they rarely EQ bass below around 70Hz, but I'd rather use an AV receiver without its own EQ and just use an Antimode for the sub channel, leaving the main speakers (producing all the directional, important stuff) free of extra processing.
 

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David@FrankHarvey said:
steve_1979 said:
David@FrankHarvey said:
Excellently!
Do you have any suggestions for any cheap (possibly secondhand) options that are worth trying?

Do you mean in the Antimode one up? Or alternatives?

Dunno really, I've never looked into it or heard it before so I'm a complete noob. As far as my ears can tell there aren't any issues with the acoustics in my room so I'm not really sure if it would be worth the hassle.

Just thinking out loud and wondered what other people think of the idea.
 
steve_1979 said:
Dunno really, I've never looked into it or heard it before so I'm a complete noob. As far as my ears can tell there aren't any issues with the acoustics in my room so I'm not really sure if it would be worth the hassle.

Just thinking out loud and wondered what other people think of the idea.

Did you check the thread I posted above?
 

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bigboss said:
steve_1979 said:
Dunno really, I've never looked into it or heard it before so I'm a complete noob. As far as my ears can tell there aren't any issues with the acoustics in my room so I'm not really sure if it would be worth the hassle.

Just thinking out loud and wondered what other people think of the idea.

Did you check the thread I posted above?

Yes, thanks for the link. :)

That was the post that pipped my interest in the first place. There are a couple of things I was wondering.

1. Is it worth it if there are no obvious problems to start with?

2. How does it effect the sound when you move around the room to different listening positions?
 

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steve_1979 said:
1. Is it worth it if there are no obvious problems to start with?
This is my argument to those with AV systems. If it sounds fine, don't mess. Sometimes adding in extra processing can have a negative effect, despite also having a positive effect, if you know what I mean. Having tried it for myself in my own system, I know it will make a positive difference, but it sounds fine as it is.

2. How does it effect the sound when you move around the room to different listening positions?
The 8033 Antimodes have a single measurement point. The Dual Core allows more than you'll ever need. Entry level AV receivers are generally a single point measure system, midrange ones are around eight or nine points, and top EQ systems in AV receivers can allow more like thirty or forty or so. A single one is fine for the sweet spot, but not for anywhere else in the room. Multiple measuring points are better to cover more seating positions, but you have to bear in mind that the more measuring points there are, the more the end result is 'averaged out' to suit that wide area.

The Dual Core is the most flexible in this respect as you can store different profiles, which can be used to cover different areas of the room.
 

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David@FrankHarvey said:
steve_1979 said:
1. Is it worth it if there are no obvious problems to start with?
This is my argument to those with AV systems. If it sounds fine, don't mess. Sometimes adding in extra processing can have a negative effect, despite also having a positive effect, if you know what I mean. Having tried it for myself in my own system, I know it will make a positive difference, but it sounds fine as it is.

2. How does it effect the sound when you move around the room to different listening positions?
The 8033 Antimodes have a single measurement point. The Dual Core allows more than you'll ever need. Entry level AV receivers are generally a single point measure system, midrange ones are around eight or nine points, and top EQ systems in AV receivers can allow more like thirty or forty or so. A single one is fine for the sweet spot, but not for anywhere else in the room. Multiple measuring points are better to cover more seating positions, but you have to bear in mind that the more measuring points there are, the more the end result is 'averaged out' to suit that wide area.

The Dual Core is the most flexible in this respect as you can store different profiles, which can be used to cover different areas of the room.

Thanks for the feedback. :)

In the normal listening position it sounds fine and in most other places around the room it sounds fine too (there is one corner that sounds very boomy but as I never stand there it's not an issue).

Most of the time I listen to music while in the sweet spot between the speakers and the bass sounds perfect (the best I've ever heard in fact) but I also regularly move around the room and do stuff while the music is playing and while it always sounds very good the bass volume does vary slightly in different positions. TBH I think this is just a case of looking for a problem where there isn't one. It would be nice if I could borrow a system from somewhere to give it a go first. Or maybe a free/cheap software version for the computer (if such a thing even exists)?
 

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