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plastic penguin
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plastic penguin
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plastic penguin said:
It may be a quick question, but not such a quick answer:
2 Channel
Sweet, clear, soaring, detailed highs with no "grain" whatsoever. Bass is very deep, punchy and controlled while stopping and starting on a sixpence...it plays tunes. The mid-range is liquid, realistic and full of emotion.
The transient response is startling while the imaging and soundstaging is remarkable.....which leads to an exciting experience.
The above description may seem OTT, but it is why I rate the 35i so highly.....analysing the sound becomes irrelevent, as this amp just sounds "right". It's not smooth or bright, dull or forward.....and a growing band on here are now appreciating its talents, which is great.
AV
My system gives a dramatic, exciting but musical presentation ie. It's not forward or tiring to listen to. This is due to the very remarkable AVR600, which didn't quite get the recognition it deserved as a technical "tour de force" due to the persistent problems. There is certainly a Class A signature to the sound due to the Class G amps it uses.
That centre speaker makes a huge difference, and the realism and "slam" it gives is nothing short of breathtaking.
The Sub is also unusual. Looking at it, you would think it would have this permanently thunderous effect....but it doesn't.....except when needed. Most of the time, it integrates so subtly that you wouldn't know it's there (it has incredibly low distortion). When called for, it can go so effortlessly low, that it can actually make you feel uneasy (all part of the fun).
The Kef IQ system is ideal for AV, as it means that there is a much bigger sweet spot for those not sitting in the ideal position.
Well that's it in a nutshell. The underlying rule that I apply when choosing equipment is the ability to accurately convey piano, violin, and male/female voice, while keeping the emotion and excitement of the musicians. I also like to be able to play all my music without feeling my ears are being assaulted.
plastic penguin
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Not OTT at all, Cno. Sounds darn good to me.
I personally like to hear bass, refusing to suscribe to bass being so taut it has the depth of a transistor radio. I love to feel the sound, if that makes sense (not chest thumping) but a sound that makes the hairs on the neck stand up and you think "yeah, that's the real deal."
From my one and only audition of high end Kefs left me the overwhelming feeling of presence and realism.
Wonderful system, Cno. Enjoy!
I personally like to hear bass, refusing to suscribe to bass being so taut it has the depth of a transistor radio. I love to feel the sound, if that makes sense (not chest thumping) but a sound that makes the hairs on the neck stand up and you think "yeah, that's the real deal."
From my one and only audition of high end Kefs left me the overwhelming feeling of presence and realism.
Wonderful system, Cno. Enjoy!
It is a wonderful system, and the culmination of a 37 year journey.plastic penguin said:
I enjoy it on a daily basis
:beer: :beer: :beer:
Cno
Wow, very serious indeed...
It all looks great and very very potent...But I must say the center is the one catching my eye on it...It is huuuuge. Looks like a front speaker laid sideways 🙂 And I bet is more powerful than the fronts of many of us 🙂 I suppose the speech is ever so clear and expressive - something so important in watching movies 🙂
Congrats on your hard work in setting-up such a gorgeous system 🙂
It all looks great and very very potent...But I must say the center is the one catching my eye on it...It is huuuuge. Looks like a front speaker laid sideways 🙂 And I bet is more powerful than the fronts of many of us 🙂 I suppose the speech is ever so clear and expressive - something so important in watching movies 🙂
Congrats on your hard work in setting-up such a gorgeous system 🙂
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CnoEvil said:
Thank you! It is like wanting the Avengers to last longer 🙂
CnoEvil said:
Reading this over & over in many different forms made me pull the trigger.. nah.. not the Arcam AVR600.. but the Classe SSP 800 with dual processor! Bought used and will be collecting it tomorrow!
CnoEvil said:
This is the first time I have seen such a huge center speaker in real wolrd pics (It also shows that I do not visit other forums as I recently discovered the AVS Forums website and the people over there - the other side of the pond - are really into it with dedicated rooms and gigantic speakers. Feels too overwhelming. I like the simpler integrated into the living room rather than carving a room for home theatre). Also that gives me better ideas for my speaker upgrade 😉
CnoEvil said:
I thought I saw all the pictures though I did not recognize the IQ range but all reference range. Are you talking about a different set up? Kind of lost 🙁
RickyDeg said:
Thank you - I'm particularly chuffed you liked the photos, as there is a high standard set on here.
WishTree said:
Sorry, I was talking b*!!*x. I meant to say Uni-Q (same as the Tannoy's Dual Concentric).
I'm delighted that you went for the Classe, and was not tempted into going backwards....do report in with your findings.
One question for you - Did you say (on another thread) that you heard the AMS? If this is the case, was it the 35i, how did you find it (eg. compared to the Inpol), and what were the other components of the system?
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Sorry.. I must have missed that.. I heard the MF M6i but not the AMS. Also heard Titan. Please do understand that those were early days when I heard the Titan and I had no real reference (at best Arcam AVR 600). I do not remember the pre-amp or speakers as I was doing many auditions that day and got to hear Titan for 15 minutes as the dealer wanted to show what their best sounds like (ipon my insistence, a bit). The sound was very clean and spaces were very very quite as the top of the memory.
Pathos Inpol2 happened to me an year later. I heard the M6i in quite a few occasions. Actually I did a back to back comparision of M6i with Arcam AVR600 (With several speakers including Dynaudio Focus 360, B&W CM9 and some more which were there in the audition room) and I preferred the stereo sound imaging of Arcam much better than the M6i. There is a lot of musicality in Arcam where as the M6i sounded brute and detached to me.
unfortunately never heard the AMS35i
I also got a Classe CA 2100 to run with Classe SSP 800 so that I can retire the integrated (Classe CAP-2100) to make the system easier. I know it is a lot of money (atleast, for me 😉 ) to spend on a pre-pro but 'resistance was futile' ! The idea is to run just one system with Classe SSP 800 as prepro and CA 2100 to drive the front two channels and get a 3 or 5 or 7 channel amp for the rest of the HT system. Once everything is in place I will start a new thread to share my experience! I already have a new found respect for a pre-amp (the other day ran the M-DAC as DAC+pre and CAP 2100 as only Power VS M-DAC as DAC with CAP 2100 as integrated, and then I understood how important it is to have a good pre-amp. Classe retailed their earlier only analogue pre-amp CP 700 at 8750 Euros!) so hope fully the new set up should be able to make me hear a little more.
And yes, please do not remind me about the speakers upgrade 🙂
Pathos Inpol2 happened to me an year later. I heard the M6i in quite a few occasions. Actually I did a back to back comparision of M6i with Arcam AVR600 (With several speakers including Dynaudio Focus 360, B&W CM9 and some more which were there in the audition room) and I preferred the stereo sound imaging of Arcam much better than the M6i. There is a lot of musicality in Arcam where as the M6i sounded brute and detached to me.
unfortunately never heard the AMS35i
I also got a Classe CA 2100 to run with Classe SSP 800 so that I can retire the integrated (Classe CAP-2100) to make the system easier. I know it is a lot of money (atleast, for me 😉 ) to spend on a pre-pro but 'resistance was futile' ! The idea is to run just one system with Classe SSP 800 as prepro and CA 2100 to drive the front two channels and get a 3 or 5 or 7 channel amp for the rest of the HT system. Once everything is in place I will start a new thread to share my experience! I already have a new found respect for a pre-amp (the other day ran the M-DAC as DAC+pre and CAP 2100 as only Power VS M-DAC as DAC with CAP 2100 as integrated, and then I understood how important it is to have a good pre-amp. Classe retailed their earlier only analogue pre-amp CP 700 at 8750 Euros!) so hope fully the new set up should be able to make me hear a little more.
And yes, please do not remind me about the speakers upgrade 🙂
WishTree said:
It's probably my fault for picking you up wrong, as what you said above was my take on what you have heard.
I deliberately didn't mention speakers, as your wallet needs (some) recuperation time (then I'll be back - you can count on it). FWIW. I think you were right to get the front end/amp sorted out - now almost any speaker is going to sound its best.
....though, after less time than you might think, you will say to yourself, "if it sounds this good with cheaper speakers, just imagine........"
You're back on track, my friend
Cno
I'm late to the party on this thead, but I had to comment on your system Cno. Wow! What an all out assault on home cinema! And so neaty done. Brilliant!
I'm a big fan of KEF speakers. No doubt it sounds as good as it looks. Well done my friend. :clap:
I'm a big fan of KEF speakers. No doubt it sounds as good as it looks. Well done my friend. :clap:
Jax, that means a lot, especially given the quality of your system.jaxwired said:
:cheers:
Cno
your welcome cno.....iv'e just been reading through this post and its great to read that you can not only appreciate a referance system...but acyualy understand it.....this is my reasoning for sticking with a small sat system... :help:
stonking system Cno,
Um I may have had one to many shandys after todays BBQ, but what is the SUB make. Can't see it anywhere :quest:
Um I may have had one to many shandys after todays BBQ, but what is the SUB make. Can't see it anywhere :quest:
spsplastering said:
Truth to tell, I haven't a clue......but I know a person, who knows 3 people who do!
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