alienrik, idc, powerkords test verdict...

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Just thought i'd let you know of our first impression findings guys.

To just get straight to the point as ive mentioned to you before Rik when i first hooked up the T3 powerkord to my amp it did show some slight improvements, although i do appreciate the fact that the cable needs time to "burn-in" & ive every faith that in time it will show more major improvements. Now my mate had got his RA reference powerkord with the 350iag wattgate that had been DCT treated also, i hooked it up to my amp & even though the cable hadnt been burnt in as yet, the results of this powerkord from the start were outstanding!! Everything WHSAV had said in there review about this cable i couldnt agree more, the sound was huge, we tested "the day after tomorrow" on bluray with the DTS master audio soundtrack & its the best ive heard it, with the isolated claps of thunder they sounded incredibly deep, loud & very real to the point were they made me jump, the rain, lightning etc wre spot on even the PQ was improved upon were it was alot cleaner & clearer. If i had a blind fold on whilst doing this demo i would of sworn i was in somebody elses room, even my music (cds) were also improved upon it felt like id changed my entire system to much higher end one, everything we watched was just massively improved.

I tried the reference on my bluray player & i have to say there wasnt any difference between this & the classic but adding it to my amp was a different story altogether as RA has stated that its best to use the reference with amps & hes sooo right.

I cant praise this powerkord enough & to think that its going to get better with burning in?? Now thats a scary thought, ha. And for anyone out there that dont believe powerkords make any difference especially this one dont deserve to be classed as AV enthusiasts & i firmly believe the reason why they say they cant tell any differences is simply because they havnt tried em as if they had thay wouldnt come to the conclusions they do.

So i think i may invest in one of these RA references myself but ill wait to see if the T3 comeslose to it first but my gut feeling is telling me it wont, we shall see....
 
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I agree - nice post
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Queue Ebay's Massive of £0.99 cable enthusiasts hunting your review down now.......time to stop reading I guess
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Intriguing test ~ how long have you had the TM3 now Jase?

Bear in mind that copper will be better right from the start anyways so I would half expect what happened there (Silver is ALWAYS awful from the outset). DCT could easily make more of a difference than im aware of mind as ive never really tested that.

Also ~ ive found that changes take 'time' on certain components (Tvs, cd players, dvd players etc). So simply sticking a new cable on doesnt show any differences 'to start with'

Just giving out my personal experience
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I wonder how long its going to take for the 'cable voodoo posse' to arrive now?
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In all honesty Rik i cudnt care less about the "cable voodoo posse" its my findings im more bothered about mate.

And yes Rik i totally agree with you that on certain components they wont show differences from the start although they did on the amp, what ill do is wait for a few months & then ill try it again on my bluray player as my mate would of no doubt fully burned it in by then, hopefully, ha

This is just my "first test" result, but im still amazed at how well this RA powerkord has performed without being burnt in etc as for DCT i cant comment on what differences this creates as i havnt tried one that hasnt been treated but im sure its contributing somewhere down the line.

Oh & ive had the T3 for about 3wks now Rik
 

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Trust me Jase ~ it WILL get better over time. I cant say itll be as good as the russ andrews, but it will certainly get better than it is now (id try a retest around the 2 - 3 month mark if I were you)

You make me wanna get mine DCT treated now just out of curiosity
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Good post anyways mate. Takes some guts posting on a hifi forum mentioning 'cables' as well you know
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Let the 'voodoo posse' continue to bury their heads in the sand anyways

Look forward to your input in a few months time
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Im sure your right Rik, im sure it will get better over time, as i havnt written it off mate, this is just purely a 1st initial "out of the box" review & im very, very impressed with the RA i must say.

As for the DCT treatment? Im wandering if that has had a huge effect before the burning in? Im tempted Rik in having ALL my cables DCT treated tbh. This post is mainly for you & idc Rik & anyone who believes in cables as much as we do, if i wanted s**t from the voodoo posse i would of called my subject "allow me to try & convert you to powerkords"

Mind you there entitled to there opinions, its just a pity they could'nt try before they condem them..... There loss mate & yes ill keep you up to date with my future findings itll be around october (sounds ages away doesnt it)
 

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aliEnRIK:

Trust me Jase ~ it WILL get better over time. I cant say itll be as good as the russ andrews, but it will certainly get better than it is now (id try a retest around the 2 - 3 month mark if I were you)

You make me wanna get mine DCT treated now just out of curiosity
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Good post anyways mate. Takes some guts posting on a hifi forum mentioning 'cables' as well you know
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Let the 'voodoo posse' continue to bury their heads in the sand anyways

Look forward to your input in a few months time
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Just stick it in the freezer Erik.

It's all nonsense anyway, how can a mains cable possibly make a difference!

Bloomin' snake oil, if you ask me. I've a good mind to sell mine before the placebo police turn up and cart me off to a padded room.

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Good post, it's just a pity many people don't know what there missing!

Interestingly with a clean Mains source I found Powerkords have very little effect, you just need to keep the current draw as high as you can so Power Amps can follow the music demands.
 

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trevor79:Good post, it's just a pity many people don't know what there missing!

Interestingly with a clean Mains source I found Powerkords have very little effect, you just need to keep the current draw as high as you can so Power Amps can follow the music demands.Hi Trev, how's you?

I do believe ive got fairly clean mains as im also using a RA mini purifier that also has great results however , i do share your thoughts to an extent that powerkords have very little effect with a clean mains source as i found this with the Classic powerkords but the Reference kord is a different story mate.

Its totally blown me away as even i was surprised with the extent of the differences its truly made.
 
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Hi Jase, I'm very well thanks, hope you are too.

Sounds like you've had an impressive result, we will have to get round to meeting up and playing around with our systems.

It's remarkable the improvements that can be had, isn't it.
 

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trevor79:Hi Jase, I'm very well thanks, hope you are too.

Sounds like you've had an impressive result, we will have to get round to meeting up and playing around with our systems.

It's remarkable the improvements that can be had, isn't it.Yes Trev, the improvements certainly can be remarkable.

Ive played around with Powerkords & mains conditioners for sometime now & always found them very effective but using this Reference powerkord has been the most impressive yet for improvements in both PQ & AQ it's simply amazing !! I look at this kord as a piece of kit in it's own right, no doubt about it.

And i havnt forgotten about our meeting Trev its just ive been so busy at work etc im hoping for an August visit, ill be in touch anyway when i can arrange something soon mate.
 

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Just thought i'd report to say ive been watching some episodes of "band of brothers" on bluray & most of the explosions were making me jump they were so real, the tanks, gunfire, planes all sound simply amazing, im having to turn it down abit from were i normally have my volume set.

Im loving this as its like ive a completely new "higher end" system !!
 

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Band of brothers is absolutely awesome on a decent av system

Some of the best 'steering' sound effects I know of (Probably the best 'series' I know of too)
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So have you 'loaned' the russ andrews cable or are you back on the TM3?
 

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Hi Rik,

Yes ive "LOANED" the Russ Andrews as luckily my mates gone away for a week , so i said id look after it for him ha

So im just demoing between the 2 kords, ya know how it is Rik, weve gotta do what weve gotta do eh? Ok the Mrs is telling me ive more important things to be doing but i keep telling her in a minute as im on to some serious science here my dear lol
 

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Hi jase. Just to let you know I am here, but briefly ( laptop problems and the mother-in-law is staying) and will post back once I have had a proper chance to read this.
 

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jase fox:In all honesty Rik i cudnt care less about the "cable voodoo posse" its my findings im more bothered about mate.....

Quite right to (if any do post I vote we completely ignore them ), excellent review.

jase fox: .....And yes Rik i totally agree with you that on certain components they wont show differences from the start although they did on the amp, what ill do is wait for a few months & then ill try it again on my bluray player as my mate would of no doubt fully burned it in by then....

This and your other post comment about quality of mains is why I think some find mains treatments and power cables make a difference and others do not. For me a RA Yello power cable on a Rega amp made no difference, but it did on an Arcam CDP.

jase fox:..... This is just my "first test" result, but im still amazed at how well this RA powerkord has performed without being burnt in etc as for DCT i cant comment on what differences this creates as i havnt tried one that hasnt been treated but im sure its contributing somewhere down the line. Oh & ive had the T3 for about 3wks now Rik

Check the bargains part of the RA site, someone may trade/return one, you will get lucky eventually.
 

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aliEnRIK:

You make me wanna get mine DCT treated now just out of curiosity
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Just read the DCT part of the RA site and it states 'involves extreme cooling of the metal parts' so, is it not just before manufacturing DCT is possible and sticking stuff in the freezer, plastic plugs,sheething and all is a myth?
 

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idc:aliEnRIK:

You make me wanna get mine DCT treated now just out of curiosity
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Just read the DCT part of the RA site and it states 'involves extreme cooling of the metal parts' so, is it not just before manufacturing DCT is possible and sticking stuff in the freezer, plastic plugs,sheething and all is a myth?

I would say so yes. Freezers at best would touch about -25 degrees C which aint going to change anything at all IMO

Proper DCT goes way WAY lower and as I understand it, all plugs etc are stripped first so its just the metallic parts that are frozen. This in turn 'compresses' the metal/s and makes for a better conducting material, allowing the electrons to flow with less resistance
 

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Hi idc,

How's you mate? Before i start ill just say that i completely understand were the inlaws are concerned, ha that said first of all i agree with you about the cable voodoo posse ill just ignore them as personally i havnt anything to say to them.

And yes im very, very impressed with the RA reference powerkord idc mind you for £232 i oughta be, ha Just watched some of king kong (new version) on bluray & both PQ & AQ were fantastic to the point were even the Mrs could even tell the differences, now for her to say that is a revelation i can tell you.

I also agree with you when you say the RA yello cable is good on CDP im using a classic on mine now as there was a huge difference between the two, which means i now have a spare yello cable i dont need.
 

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Jase, I get on well with the m-in-law, especially after she had just given us a wad of cash! (None for hifi sadly, childs bike, some joinery work about the house and kitchen.)

I take great stock in the wife test. If she notices a difference, then there is one.
 

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jase fox:idc:

I take great stock in the wife test. If she notices a difference, then there is one.

I could'nt agree with you more here mate...

That involves telling her though
 

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JoelSim:jase fox:idc:

I take great stock in the wife test. If she notices a difference, then there is one.

I could'nt agree with you more here mate...

That involves telling her though

LOL, very true. So since your wife has unknowingly been the subject to numerous blind tests without her knowledge, has she ever commented on an unexplained improvement in sound?
 
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LOL, very true. So since your wife has unknowingly been the subject to numerous blind tests without her knowledge, has she ever commented on an unexplained improvement in sound?

It isn't very likely. For a placebo to work the patient has to know they're taking it.
 

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