AKG K451 vs K550

Zubkabera

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Anyone had the opportunity to compare the two, does K550 sound worth 100£ more over 451, between the two which one can produce better sound without headphone amp, need to replace my broken Grado SR80. thanks
 

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Whether the K550 is worth the money will depend what you are looking for. For me it failed on a couple of fronts so I sold it, I have now found nearly exactly what I was expecting from the K550 in the SoundMAGIC HP100. It has the amazing detail and comfort, but less harsh in the upper MIDs (still sparkles though). Is way better in the bass, isolation, fit and almost in it's abilities unamped. My recommendation goes here hands down.
 
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Where did you get your Soundmagic HP100's from? I've heard good things about them but they're quite hard to track down...
 
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Where did you get your Soundmagic HP100's from? I've heard good things about them but they're quite hard to track down...
 

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Maybe here? This is where I got mine.

http://www.hifiheadphones.co.uk/soundmagic-hp100-closed-back-headphones-hp100-prodid-4393.html
 

Zubkabera

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H Dale,

Since you have such a awesome collection of headphones what is your opinion on sound magic compared to Shure and B&W P3 and which one you like the most with Dragonfly. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
 

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Zubkabera said:
Hi Dale, Since you have such a awesome collection of headphones what is your opinion on sound magic compared to Shure and B&W P3 and which one you like the most with Dragonfly. Thanks for sharing your experiences.

It might be heresy to say this, but I think the Soundmagic HP100 is as good overall as the Shure 1840, although the 1840 costs two or three times as much. The 1840 has a more perfect treble, but not by much - very slight difference. The HP100 wins easily on bass, and it's not a warm or boosted bass at all - it's quite lean, but also very solid with good impact way deep, while the 1840 tapers off below 60 hz or so. Oddly enough, the 1840 has essentially no fundamental response at 20 hz, where other headphones are sometimes weak but still have audible output. My overall feeling about the P3 is it's rather dry sounding, while the 1840 and HP100 have a seamless and smooth midrange. Other than that dryness, the P3 really needs a treble boost just to get near the treble response of the 1840 and HP100 - not all that near actually, but without the treble boost it's just too treble-shy. The bass is decent for a small low-profile on-ear headphone - no complaints there. For me, a big part of the value of the P3 is (white or black version) it has that low profile so you don't look like a spaceman, and overall looks very dapper. To take advantage of the Dragonfly, you should use a headphone that has a good neutral treble (the 1840 or HP100 would do nicely), because compared to most low-cost analog amps, the whole upper tier of the sound "opens up" (for lack of a better term) in a really marvelous way. It gets bigger, more spacious, more detailed, but doesn't gain irritations like increased sibilants or treble harshness. That's not to say it would mate well with every hi-fi headphone, since the power is limited, and the 1840 really stretches the limit due to low efficiency.
 

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Dear Dale, thanks for your detailed response and findings you have raised a very important point regarding dragonfly I noticed that my Shure iem goes very well compared to grados and I was looking for some guide to look for ideal oth what hifi recommended AKG 451 but after reviewing user experiences I get the impression that it might not be to everybody's taste.

I have short listed sennheiser hd600, AKG 550, AKG701 and Shure 1840 but nw will be interested to get some opinion about HP100.
 

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