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davedotco

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benk123 said:
Found a dealer in Israel. Price per unit 840 GBP. I was speechless, way out of my price range...
About double the usual price anywhere in western europe...*shok*

Contact; https://www.thomann.de/gb/index.html

See if they are prepared to ship to Israel, worth an email, they are fantastic speakers and Thomann are a reliable and reputable company/
 

davedotco

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luckylion100 said:
It's really made me think about my own set up so I hope you don't mind me asking about the sound quality of these Adam A7x partnered with the Yamaha WXC50..

If I was to dispose of my PMC Twenty 23's, Roksan K2 + Power amp would the Adams match or even better what the PMC's can output in sound quality terms? I'm aware my current amplication is a little long in the tooth. I'd also like to cut down on the number of boxes, free rack space etc.

Vinyl playback is key though but I'm imagining I could connect my Rega Fono M2 into the Analogue in jack of the Yamaha to accomodate this?

As far as active speakers go I'm wondering how far up the chain I'd have to go to match the PMC's..

Any feedback would be appreciated and sorry about hijacking the thread but I'm hopeful any comments will also be valuable to the OP.
There is a fundamental difference between good quality active and passive speakers that seems to flummox some people, the clarity and general lack of hi-fi 'bloom' takes people differently.

PMC speakers are rather less hi-fi than most and so much of this is down to your reaction, but shifting to actives might not be as big a deal for you as it might be for others.

The simple answer would be a pair of PMC Twotwo.5 at £3300 but that is not a cheap solution as you will need a quality pre-amp.

The other, much less expensive option, would be a pair of AVI ADM10s at half the price. The built in pre-amp has 2 digital optical inputs and an analogue (for your vinyl). If that is enough for you, they are remarkable value.
 

benk123

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I checked with Thomann and they can ship to Israel. It works out to be around £1000 for the pair including import duty. Not bad hey!!
 

lindsayt

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davedotco said:
Is a difficult subject, partly because the term is so wide ranging and so vague.

Most music, excluding perhaps some electronic music and a church organ, will be happy with an in room response down to about 70hz with the response rolling off below that. After all, that is the basic response of music cut onto an LP record, 12db/octave with a -3dB point at 70Hz, this was the norm for all 'popular' commercial recordings and a few specialist lables apart it still is.

Digital can and does have a response that goes much deeper but for 'classic' rock it really is not needed, what is required is a tight, powerful response in the couple of octaves above 60hz. Subwoofers are designed to fill in below 60hz, they will not give you more punch or more presence, on some recordings they might give you some 'weight' to underpin the music but it is remarkable how little it contributes in other cases...
What you have written is absolute nonsense.

It's something that anyone with a vinyl front end and an ADC (analogue to digital converter) can prove for themselves, by recording a few tracks from vinyl into digital format and then using the tools in (the free software package) Audacity to produce a frequency spectrum chart.

This will show, for example, that Suzanne Vega's Solitude Standing on LP has more content below 70 hz than at any other part of the frequency range.

What's more, if you play tracks like this on a system that's pretty flat down to 20 hz (and with reasonable fidelity in the bass) and on one that rolls off at 60 to 70 hz you will hear a difference. With the more rolled off system sounding uninvolving.

Some people like to listen to systems with lean / rolled off bass. I don't.
 

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