4K Blu-ray players

[Bonajones38]

Just read the review of the new Pioneer Blue-ray player. The retailers listed as selling it stated it was 4K.

I thought 4K Blu-ray players were not expected until later this year or even next Spring. Is it really 4K???

 

[simonlewis]

No it is not 4K although it might be 4K upscaling, you are right about 4K being released later in the year or next spring though.

 

[bigboss]

Yes, they're regular blu ray players with ability to upscale pictures to fill a 4K screen (a useless feature as the TV will upscale anyway).

 

[f1only]

Depending of course on how good the tv is at upscaling. Personally i use my amp to upscale as it is better at it than the TV, or my Blu-ray player, but than they are both cheap tat.

 

[Bonajones38]

Now I'm getting confused. If upscaling to 4K is no better than dedicated 4K, why bother with a 4K blu-ray players when they come out? Or would playing 4K discs require a 4K player? Whats the diffference?.

 

[bigboss]

Depending of course on how good the tv is at upscaling. Personally i use my amp to upscale as it is better at it than the TV, or my Blu-ray player, but than they are both cheap tat.

Based on my demo of 4K TVs so far, they're brilliant upscalers. I can't see blu ray players bettering that.

In my experience with Yamaha AV receiver, it's quite poor at upscaling. I didn't even bother checking on my Marantz.

 

[bigboss]

Now I'm getting confused. If upscaling to 4K is no better than dedicated 4K, why bother with a 4K blu-ray players when they come out? Or would playing 4K discs require a 4K player? Whats the diffference?.

Upscaling simply means that the player is using an algorithm to multiply the pixels of a 1080p picture 4 times to fill all the pixels of a 4K TV. Obviously this is a processed image. Although excellent, it cannot equal a true 4K picture.

4K discs will need a dedicated 4K player which doesn't exist yet.

 

[abacus]

Now I'm getting confused. If upscaling to 4K is no better than dedicated 4K, why bother with a 4K blu-ray players when they come out? Or would playing 4K discs require a 4K player? Whats the diffference?.

Upscaling a HD picture to 4K means converting the HD picture into a format that will fill a 4K screen, as there is not enough detail in a HD picture to fill it, however while good, it will not give you full 4K quality, as most of the added pixel details are mathematical guess work. (Only a 4K picture can give you a full 4K picture)

The same applies when you upscale a DVD to HD. (Which Blu-Ray players also do)

Hope this helps

Bill

 

[Bonajones38]

I thought so. I'll wait till Pioneer (or whoever) bring out a 4K player before I upgrade.

 

[bigboss]

I thought so. I'll wait till Pioneer (or whoever) bring out a 4K player before I upgrade.

Pioneer won't, because it has sold its AV business to Onkyo.

 

[f1only]

Depending of course on how good the tv is at upscaling. Personally i use my amp to upscale as it is better at it than the TV, or my Blu-ray player, but than they are both cheap tat.

Based on my demo of 4K TVs so far, they're brilliant upscalers. I can't see blu ray players bettering that.

In my experience with Yamaha AV receiver, it's quite poor at upscaling. I didn't even bother checking on my Marantz.

Luckily BB i no longer have a Yamaha amp hooked up.. This New Pioneeer is 100% better than the Yamaha i did have, & over double the cost, mind you the Yamaha was good compared to my previous A/V amp

 

[Bonajones38]

Ooh! Lets hope Onkyo will be just as good or better, price for price.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Ooh! Lets hope Onkyo will be just as good or better, price for price.

All Blu-Ray players are the same.