2 British great Brands

[hybridauth_Facebook_992286454136174]

I have been a follower of What HIFI magazine and lately there webpage for 20+ years. Over the years they have had great reviews on various products. One thing however, there seems to be a complete lack of two of Britains great HifI brands/products missing from reviews and discussion points by What HIFI. The two are Wilson Benesch, who produce world class speakers and AVID Hifi, who also produce World Class Turntables.

So why are their products not being reviewed? I suspect you probably need to pay for them being reviewed or spend money on marketing with What HIFI, it's a shame this, as What HIFI should be showing these.

 

[spiny norman]

One thing however, there seems to be a complete lack of two of Britains great HifI brands/products missing from reviews and discussion points by What HIFI. The two are Wilson Benesch, who produce world class speakers and AVID Hifi, who also produce World Class Turntables.

Well, here's Wilson Benesch, for starters: http://www.whathifi.com/products/wilson-benesch

I suspect you probably need to pay for them being reviewed or spend money on marketing with What HIFI, it's a shame this, as What HIFI should be showing these.

Here we go again! What on earth makes you suspect that?

 

[chebby]

So why are their products not being reviewed?

Wait for an answer from WHF? or answer it yourself? Yes that's right ...

I suspect you probably need to pay for them being reviewed or spend money on marketing with What HIFI ...

Just a suspicion then? Oh no ...

... it's a shame this, as What HIFI should be showing these.

Yep. Question, answer and judgement all in one go. So economical with our time. Thanks. Now ##gger off.

 

[spiny norman]

Now ##gger off.

'Sometimes you got the feeling that the whathifi.com meet'n'greet service needed some more work'

 

[hybridauth_Facebook_992286454136174]

Just Joined today, started a decent discussion on 2 british brands, and get told to ****** off!! Nice to meet you too...

All the Wilson benesch reviews are well outdated. They have new products since 2007

 

[chebby]

I was holding back.

 

[ID.]

started a decent discussion on 2 british brands

i must have missed that. Was it before or after your unfounded accusations of the magazine whose forum you just joined.

Of course, having just joined, you couldn't be aware of the background to how WHF review and those kinds of repetitive accusations.

So, anyone have some good theories on 9/11 #jetfuelcantmeltsteelbeams #WHFonthetake

 

[spiny norman]

All the Wilson benesch reviews are well outdated. They have new products since 2007

I'm sure WHSV has reviewed WB speakers more recently than that, but they don't seem to be coming up in the (admittedly flaky) search system on this site.

 

[Deleted member 116933]

I was holding back.

Come on man.....! The blokes new! its why this forum is dying! he is trying to open a up a descussion for you to shut him down regardless of topic and if he's correct or not.

But in answer to the OP some brands just don't feel the need for reviews. There of a certain price point that differences between brands is so small that what ever you get will be great regardless. I mean Naim is a frequent product supplier but they haven't supplied there statement amp for review basically because they know they dont have too. But i suppose it could be poo but i highly doubt it.

But products also at this price point tend to be made to order so there actually may be none to review anyway.

But It would be nice to see them if only to dream

 

[Deleted member 116933]

Wankers.........There is just some wankers in this world that want to put people down. With nothing better to do, in there sad life.

Don't go to there level.

 

[hybridauth_Facebook_992286454136174]

Thank you.

 

[chebby]

Wankers.........There is just some wankers in this world that want to put people down. With nothing better to do, in there sad life.

Don't go to there level.

Just as you launched into an unfounded and unresearched accusation that What Hi-Fi? take payment for reviews and favour their advertisers. That, to my mind, is 'putting people down' (actually I think it's even more serious and would consider it libellous).

 

[plastic penguin]

I have been a follower of What HIFI magazine and lately there webpage for 20+ years. Over the years they have had great reviews on various products. One thing however, there seems to be a complete lack of two of Britains great HifI brands/products missing from reviews and discussion points by What HIFI. The two are Wilson Benesch, who produce world class speakers and AVID Hifi, who also produce World Class Turntables.

So why are their products not being reviewed? I suspect you probably need to pay for them being reviewed or spend money on marketing with What HIFI, it's a shame this, as What HIFI should be showing these.

Just to clarify WHFI? S&V review policy:

1) They can only review a product if a company supplies a component. WHFI do not purchase products for review (on occasions they have - it's rare).

2) Wilson Benesch AFAIK haven't released a new line for years. The last models to be reviewed were the Square One & Two, Arc and Discovery. And I think all but the Square ones were reviewed in the 'Temptation' section of the mag, way beyond the resources of mere mortals like me.

 

[stevee1966]

Think a few are being a bit harsh on the OP here. He's put an opinion on the forum which may or may not be to everyones point of view, but in my mind the responses given have been over the top and out of order.

It gives the impression of 'agree with us, or sod off' without any reasonable debate, and hardly encourages potential new members to make any contribution without the fear of retribution and abuse.

 

[Frank Harvey]

Not good for the forum. New members, regardless of their initial post (not that it was that bad in this case) need to be treated better. Build a happy place.

 

[chebby]

It gives the impression of 'agree with us, or sod off' without any reasonable debate, and hardly encourages potential new members to make any contribution without the fear of retribution and abuse.

So it's ok to accuse the magazine's review staff of corrupt practices because you're a new poster?

You know the difference between most first posts and this and so do I.

It was not seeking 'reasonable debate' on the question of review practices here. It was trolling at best and libellous at worst.

 

[ID.]

Think a few are being a bit harsh on the OP here. He's put an opinion on the forum which may or may not be to everyones point of view, but in my mind the responses given have been over the top and out of order.

It gives the impression of 'agree with us, or sod off' without any reasonable debate, and hardly encourages potential new members to make any contribution without the fear of retribution and abuse.

Ah, false equivalence where baseless conspiracy theories are given the same value as other things like facts in the name of balanced discussion. Maybe if the OP had just avoided the tired conspiracy theory that everyone trots out when they don't agree with a review or the treatment/non treatment of their pet brand it would've been an interesting discussion about a couple of brands little discussed on the forum.

 

[MajorFubar]

Like every newby who joins and thinks they've started the first ever cable debate, the OP was likely to be unaware of the eruption his opening post was destined to cause. That's my take on it anyway, perhaps I'm being naive

 

[ID.]

Like every newby who joins and thinks they've started the first ever cable debate, the OP was likely to be unaware of the eruption his opening post was destined to cause. That's my take on it anyway, perhaps I'm being naive

No, you're quite right. Happens across all internet forums, although it can be hard to tell naivety and ignorance from trolling. My theory is that if they're prepared to take potshots at someone or something then they should harden up enough to have some shots taken at them.

 

[hybridauth_Facebook_992286454136174]

I agree, I think i was naive to think that i would'nt upset someone with my post, that was not my intentions. I was wanting to start a post, on why 2 of britains brands, that produce fanstactic products are not reviewed on here? I appreciate WB speakers have been in the past, but not lately. Avid Hifi who make turntables, I can't see any reviews whatsoever. I now understand that What HIFI require equipment to be sent to them for review, so maybe the question now is why are Avid and WB not sending in there products for review?

 

[Al ears]

I agree, I think i was naive to think that i would'nt upset someone with my post, that was not my intentions. I was wanting to start a post, on why 2 of britains brands, that produce fanstactic products are not reviewed on here? I appreciate WB speakers have been in the past, but not lately. Avid Hifi who make turntables, I can't see any reviews whatsoever. I now understand that What HIFI require equipment to be sent to them for review, so maybe the question now is why are Avid and WB not sending in there products for review?

Perhaps, possible, they are that good they don't need reviews in the likes of WHFSAV. Check other hifi publications and you will see the recent reviews. They are obviously targeting magazines normally read by hifi enthusiasts.

 

[radiorog]

I think some of those first responses simply show the rudeness or lack of intelligence from some of the foromites here. It is a shame, and no doubt will be why more decent people are not interested in getting involved on this site. Even if someone comes on here with a conspiracy theory, why would your first response be to tell them to b****r off?! To me, it makes you look dumb, and therefore all your views as such, such as cables. Yep, I just turned this into a cable thread!

 

[BigH]

WHF rely on companies to send them products to review, which can lead to rather unbalanced reviews. Say 53 reviews of Dalis and none for Harbeth. Some brands don't want their products reviewed by WHF.

 

[PhilRis]

So rude Chebby. Shame on you!

 

[plastic penguin]

There are aspects f companies not needing mag reviews, but from my archive of old WHFI mags, they do err towards the more affordble side, hence why, probably, there are a lot of Dalis, Marantz, Arcam, Pioneer etc etc.

Other mags, though, do cover budget ranges but they err towards the more hi-end and less well-known brands... I suppose aimed more at the Cnos of this world (sorry Cno for using you as an example).