Yamaha rxv1900 with monitor audio mass speakers ,good combination???

[theflyingwasp]

Never owned surround sound speakers or a home cinema amp before so any information you guys have good or bad will be helpful.

also can I also use my yamaha ysp2200 as a centre speaker and take away the centre speaker away from the mass speakers or is that stupid?

How do you connect the speakers to the amp is it just bare speaker wire?

 

[bigboss]

I've got the RX-V1900. It's superb, and can easily drive speakers much superior to MA Mass. I've got Radius HD which is also brilliant and worth considering.

 

[bigboss]

I don't think you can connect your soundbar to the separates system. You can, however, connect this which acts as centre and fronts:

http://www.petertyson.co.uk/ebuttonz/ebz_product_pages/monitor_audio_r_onehd.shtml?googlecpc&gclid=CMLbw9euvLkCFaKWtAod3igAMQ

 

[theflyingwasp]

Cheers BB ,I didn't think the soundbar thing was gonni work,the whole thing is a bit of a pain ,I don't plan to upgrade my blu ray player or tv for at least 2-3 years so when it comes to the surround sound thing I can push my budget ,what does a £2000 receiver give me that the £700-1000 does not?

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[theflyingwasp]

Cheers BB ,I didn't think the soundbar thing was gonni work,the whole thing is a bit of a pain ,I don't plan to upgrade my blu ray player or tv for at least 2-3 years so when it comes to the surround sound thing I can push my budget ,what does a £2000 receiver give me that the £700-1000 does not?

 

[bigboss]

It depends on the speakers you order. I would recommend you upgrade your speakers to Radius HD or even better, the Apex. Once you decide on speakers, then we can suggest you the receivers to match it.

Going for higher spec receiver certainly brings improvements, but the speakers should be revealing enough to bring out the benefits of an upgraded receiver. I doubt a £2000 receiver will bring any additional benefits with MA Mass speakers.

 

[mr malarky]

Morning Wasp, what sort of budget have you got to play with?

As BB says, if you're looking at £1-£2k on an amp then the MA mass speakers won't do it justice.

The mass 5.1 set up is around £800-£1000 depending on where you buy from.

Spending £2k in a receiver and only £1k on speakers would be the wrong way round IMHO, a £1k receiver with a £2k speaker set up would likely give you much more satisfying results.

 

[mr malarky]

Last years pioneer LX86 can be found for around £1,100, and would be more than capable of driving any of the leading speaker packages available. It would also have all the bells & whistles you might reasonably expect.

The Yamaha Aventage range are also excellent, with several models around that £1k price point (always worth looking at last years model before deciding, as you'll generally find it to be around £500 cheaper than when first launched).

Denon used to be great at that level but seem to have slipped behind the other brands of late.

 

[theflyingwasp]

Sorry bout the late reply.today was wake up,work,home,iron man 3d (awesome by the way )then typed this

Ah well change of plan I think I'm going to go for the pioneer elite sc 68 as for the speakers I still have no clue ,I don't know what will partner the amp the best???

Also I have the yamaha ysp2200 is it silly to use that as part of my surround sound setup kind off like a 6.2 setup as it has a passive sub ???.wish I had went down the proper surround sound setup to begin with ,but honestly the yamaha at barely halfway is very very good.

Got the blu ray player and tv I want which is soon to be calibrated so once I get this sorted I won't have to think about home cinema for a while I'm just annoyed with the whole 4k thing the technology has to start somewhere but the whole NO content whatsoever makes it pointless

 

[theflyingwasp]

My budget for speakers is £1500-£2000

i won't start another Hdmi debate (i use audio quest forrest cinnamon and vodka)but someone point me in the right direction with speaker cable ??

 

[bigboss]

Do you mean Pioneer LX86? Elite brand is US only.

Look at Monitor Audio Apex, Kef R series & B&W CM series. Definitely demo your options.

 

[theflyingwasp]

Is it U.S only :wall: I didn't know that,I have no where to demo I'm 100 miles from anyone plus I have a perfect square room with 3 stone walls so I don't know how an in store will sound compared to my room.

 

[bigboss]

Where do you live? You're spending a lot of money, so I think it's worth a trek for the demo.

 

[theflyingwasp]

I'm in the east of Scotland ,I've trusted the reviews before with all my kit,I just feel a surround sound demo in a demo room triple the size of my room won't give me a real feel of how it will sound,the money at the moment isn't really a problem I'm not mr loaded but with the amps and speakers in the space I have I think maybe going all out with really expensive amps that can handle 9.2 and speakers that put out 150w might just be overkill ,it's a 5x5m room with 3 stone walls,the yamaha is very good I just feel I'm missing out with big action films.i really wanted the zt65 but with the speakers and amp just because I can afford it dosent mean I should buy it. :?

 

[bigboss]

A dedicated 5.1 system will make a massive difference to your movie experience as compared to the soundbar. A demo in the shop's demo room will at least give you an idea about how it will sound. You can then enter into an agreement with the dealer for exchanging your speakers / receiver if you're not happy with the sound at home. Most will oblige.

 

[mr malarky]

I'm in the east of Scotland ,I've trusted the reviews before with all my kit,I just feel a surround sound demo in a demo room triple the size of my room won't give me a real feel of how it will sound,the money at the moment isn't really a problem I'm not mr loaded but with the amps and speakers in the space I have I think maybe going all out with really expensive amps that can handle 9.2 and speakers that put out 150w might just be overkill ,it's a 5x5m room with 3 stone walls,the yamaha is very good I just feel I'm missing out with big action films.i really wanted the zt65 but with the speakers and amp just because I can afford it dosent mean I should buy it. :?

Take a weekend trip to the Lake District, and stop off in Carlisle on the way there and have a demo at Peter Tysons; they're a very good store and they'll home deliver whatever you choose for no extra charge, then you can go on and enjoy the rest if your holiday. Getting the right mix of speakers and amp is crucial, and its much more important to demo speaker/amp combo than any other kit as each brand will have its own sound and your going to spend an awful lot of time listening to it.

The power rating if the amp is not just about how loud the amp will go, its about how well it will control the speakers at 'normal' listening volumes. My LX75 is rated at 180w per channel, and our lounge is only 4 metres square at most, but it doesn't overpower the room; what it does do is 'grip' the speakers extremely well and ensure the system never sounds strained or lacks punch during moments of peak output during movies (explosions etc).

Honestly, buying amps and speakers is not like buying TV's and Bluray players (where to a certain degree, a 'perfect' picture is objectively measurable and not subjective like preferences around sound signature). Appreciate it's a day out at least to do a demo, but look at it this way, how long will you likely be keeping the kit for, and how many hours are you going to spend listening to it?

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Speakers and amps are fantastic! I use mine all the time. Lucky I have a local shop who have my system as their main setup, so I always knew about the combination and how good it sounded.

You can play all the different soundtracks on the discs, and the newer ones (master audio and Dolby Digital True HD) sound brilliant. Definitely worth researching and getting your purchase right.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

You have a few here that would go well with the Pioneer:

http://www.sevenoakssoundandvision.co.uk/c/tv-home-cinema_speakers_av-speaker-packages

The Apex and the RX6 AV Monitor Audio Package.

I have heard the Radius 270 work well too:

http://www.monitoraudio.co.uk/products/radius/radius-270/

Then you have B&W speakers. Buying from Sevenoaks could be a smart move, they will deliver and offer good discounts. Southampton branch is good, Epsom, and few others, if you phone around for quotes is best.

 

[bigboss]

The OP lives in East Scotland. Epsom & Southampton branches are a tad far!

 

[mr malarky]

Our head office is in Southampton; Wasp, I could demo them on your behalf and hold my phone up so you can here what they sound like?

 

[Deleted member 2457]

The OP lives in East Scotland. Epsom & Southampton branches are a tad far!

I meant they would deliver to him. Not sure how he is going to demo or where, it is always difficult.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

The Pioneer SC-lx76 might be a good move too for saving a few hundred. It is not going to sound that different to the 86 and could save you some money there. Buy your amp and speakers together for the best discounts.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Here are the numbers:

http://www.sevenoakssoundandvision.co.uk/k/dealers?zip=&radius=250&submit=Search

Prices and quotes will fluctuate.

 

[theflyingwasp]

Thanks for the info .looks like i will have to make the effort and get a demo somewhere .you would think if you have the budget to buy 2 grand speakers and amps it shouldnt matter what you buy they should all sound awesome , but that dosent seem to be the case .was much easier buying tvs and blu ray players.back to the drawing board.should have had this sorted by now and not bought the yamaha in the first place .its a very good piece of kit but 5.1 is the way i should have went.

 

[mr malarky]

Don't get me wrong, any of the suggested brands would sound good, its a question of which ones you personally prefer as the sound signature will vary between brands of amp and speaker by a much greater degree than how picture quality will vary between BluRay players.

Yamaha and pioneer amps do sound different, as to B&W and Monitor Audio speakers, and only you can know which one will suit your personal tastes.

In any event, an hour or so sat in the listening room of a good hi-fi dealers is all part of the fun of the buying process.