I almost bought a Sony XG500 during Prime Day on Amazon as it was 50% off (from $500 to $250), but I came across brands like Devialet, Morel, etc. so I reconsidered. Plus I don't really "party" so I have no need for a party speaker. I'm considering of getting a Morel Biggie bluetooth speaker, because it is said to be "Hi-Fi" plus it's not a "party speaker" and aesthetically it looks nice. Any of the Devialet speakers look great as well, and I've physically seen it being sold at the CDG Airport in Paris. Any other interesting brands that's considered Hi-Fi?
Question What makes speakers "Hi-Fi"?
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Al ears
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I wouldn't consider any of these type of speakers to be "hifi" unless used as a pair.
That said I do use a Dali Katch in the kitchen
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A speaker produces recognisable music - a hifi speaker will attempt (with varying degrees of success) to reproduce music with accuracy across the frequency range. This involves better engineering/R&D, and a reasonably-sized cabinet/drivers - without which the lower frequency end is to some extent absent. I get the impression that most of the stuff Amazon sells is more the former than the latter, but that's just my impression.
Minkey1
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Snap. My Katch is good for summer barbys etc too, especially with a spare Chromecast Audio I’ve got. Looks a bit weird, but works.
Also have a Sonos Roam, scores on built in wifi, and vertical option.
Both are mono, but on the speaker side none of my stuff is “real” hifi - I don’t have the space.
matt49
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Arguably, the latest Sonos Five speaker qualifies as hi-fi, at least on any conventional definition of hi-fi.
It covers the full frequency range with reasonable accuracy: -3dB at 40Hz!
Its frequency response is fairly flat, or at least there's not much in it that can't easily be corrected.
It can be configured as a stereo pair.
There's a review of it on the Audio Science Review forum. (I'm not including a link because I forget what this forum's policy is re. links to other forums: the review can be found by searching at ASR.)
Minkey1
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Both my Dali and Sonos can be run in stereo mode - if I buy another of each. But for their intended use, I don’t need to. Might be interesting to try a pairing, as my daughter’s husband has a Roam.
So then why would the Morel Biggie be advertised as "Hi-Fi"?
Also, regarding running a pair of these speakers for stereo mode, couldn't they all be run as a pair?
Also, regarding running a pair of these speakers for stereo mode, couldn't they all be run as a pair?
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Rodolfo
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Taking off from your list of Bluetooth candidates, and not trying to define HiFi or categorizing any Bluetooth device as such, I suggest or share the following option:
I first heard my nephew-in-law's Bose Revolve II speaker at his home and was surprised how good it sounded. He has a set of KEF speakers in his listening room, but also likes to play/project music stored on his phone throughout and around his house. I stayed there a couple of weeks and he lent it to me to use it to listen to my own digital files. Later, when I was looking for a portable bluetooth speaker to use as he used it --to take from room to room, outdoors, and to travel with, I got one of my own. It gives me a very nice satisfying sound regardless of what I play through it, mostly with other portable devices, namely, one of two DAPs, or a phone. It connects automatically and immediately, it projects a very nice, satisfying "surround" sound of sorts, it get plenty loud, has good battery life, it has a solid aluminum build that looks as clean as it sounds, if not quite elegant, and a second unit can be set up through an app to reproduce stereo sound. I don't expect any more from a reasonably-priced Bluetooth speaker. This was the first Bose speaker I ever even tried: It may work for you as well.
It matters not to me whether it is "hi-fi" or any category, I'm satisfied that it reproduces FLAC digital file sounds nicely, impressively-enough to me and others, for selected important-to-me applications.
Take your time shopping, trial candidates if you can, and enjoy your eventual selection and your music especially.
I first heard my nephew-in-law's Bose Revolve II speaker at his home and was surprised how good it sounded. He has a set of KEF speakers in his listening room, but also likes to play/project music stored on his phone throughout and around his house. I stayed there a couple of weeks and he lent it to me to use it to listen to my own digital files. Later, when I was looking for a portable bluetooth speaker to use as he used it --to take from room to room, outdoors, and to travel with, I got one of my own. It gives me a very nice satisfying sound regardless of what I play through it, mostly with other portable devices, namely, one of two DAPs, or a phone. It connects automatically and immediately, it projects a very nice, satisfying "surround" sound of sorts, it get plenty loud, has good battery life, it has a solid aluminum build that looks as clean as it sounds, if not quite elegant, and a second unit can be set up through an app to reproduce stereo sound. I don't expect any more from a reasonably-priced Bluetooth speaker. This was the first Bose speaker I ever even tried: It may work for you as well.
It matters not to me whether it is "hi-fi" or any category, I'm satisfied that it reproduces FLAC digital file sounds nicely, impressively-enough to me and others, for selected important-to-me applications.
Take your time shopping, trial candidates if you can, and enjoy your eventual selection and your music especially.
Rodolfo
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It may not matter to you, but stereo means that on the opening track of Kind of Blue, Miles is front and center, or on both speakers, then Cannonball's alto will come in from the left speaker, and Trane's soprano follows from the right one.
nopiano
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Hifi is a widely misused badge, which has no defined or widely accepted meaning. Decades ago there was a European DIN standard for Hifi, but that’s woefully out of date. So, essentially it’s meaningless, like adding HD to headphones, implying they are somehow better.
To me, Hifi speakers are those sold to be connected as a stereo pair to an amplifier and a source like a turntable, CD player, FM tuner or Streamer, or perhaps to an ‘all in one’ device with amp and streamer combined. That broadly excludes anything with Bluetooth or portability. These days it’s more complicated with so called ‘wireless’ systems like KEF’s brilliant wireless LS series speakers.
Devices like the Morel can be absolutely fine for enjoyable listening. I enjoy Amazon Echo speakers because I often catch items I’d otherwise miss, and they're great for any room - but Hifi they aren’t.
So the Morel Biggie is actually "mono"? Is there not a Bluetooth speaker sold as a one piece "stereo" that would also be considered and or "marketed" as "hi-fi"?
I do have the Klipsch Groove Bluetooth speaker and I'm curious if I'd be able to tell the difference in sound between this and the "Hi-Fi" Morel Biggie.
I do have the Klipsch Groove Bluetooth speaker and I'm curious if I'd be able to tell the difference in sound between this and the "Hi-Fi" Morel Biggie.
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DiggyGun
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The point isn't that both channels come through a single speaker - it's that stereo requires two speakers separated by a reasonable distance. You can't get a stereo image from one unit.
The term 'hifi' in sales means about as much as 'premium'.
Amormusic
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Al ears
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Just for the home. Thanks for the suggestion. I know it's 3x the cost of the Morel Biggie.
The stereo speakers that are made for the XM satellite radio are surprisingly good. I get what you're saying.
Jasonovich
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In the realm of hifi is a certain amount of snobbery.
If these speakers give you enjoyment then that's what really matters.
idc
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I think studio speakers, those used to make the original recordings, are the most hifi of speakers, as they reproduce the music as the artists wanted the music to sound.
Al ears
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I found them to be very good, at least the Tannoy Reveal that I've tried. They're heavy though. The one I have I think is the Tannoy Reveal 402 (4" speakers).
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I do enjoy listening to music on mono speakers like the Klipsch Groove. Speaking of mono speakers, Amazon is selling the Morel Biggie at a $200 discount if buying a pair, so it's $399 for a pair.
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