What is the best speakers my needs, dali,kef,rega,or wharfedale

[gasolin]

New speakers arrived today (daam you postnord)



No roomfit (room correction) not much bass, since it lowers the deep voices, there is high room gain = alot of energy around that area where bas starts and the deep voices are

No roomfit (room correction) not much bass, since it lowers the deep voices, there is high room gain = alot of energy around that area where bas starts and the deep voices are

No roomfit as crappy as some cheap logitech,creative speakers

YMMV but room correction is madatory (at least for me)

Not angled, sound is very pleasant even after room correction, the sound is only a little bright from songs that are bright, there isn't the usually sparkle in the highs in the same way like the B&W 606/607 s1 and s2 or dali zensor,oberon and good full bass

 

[Fandango Andy]

You are going to less bass than before, that's on the specs for the speakers. Room correction can't give you more bass, it will just make the best of what it has.

What I don't get from the comments, is if you like them or not.

 

[gasolin]

The speakers are not at all bright even with room correction (Roomfit), as mention not angled

They say angle them a bit, so like dali speakers it does make a difference for the highs not angle them

Roomfit tries in both situations to get a flat or full sound using BK or Harman target curve but even when it does that the bass is really good and it's more noticeable when highs are not super bright,high,loud or highly spread (on axis vs non axis)

Some wrote long burn in period, they have gotten alot of power since i got them and sound amazing, they are not bright as dali and especially B&W can be, bass is of course depending on what you listen to and the quality of bass, edm sounds wonderfull played loud but i do without any doubt feel my room needs the help of room correction software or else bass and midbass/lower midrange don't sound good, not much bass without Roomfit

I hoped the flatter measurements would result in less roomfit adjustments,still are able to play loud with adjustments, around 5 hz difference in the bass does make a little difference to the sound when wanting to play loud, when playing loud i feel the woofer has medium excursion

Do i have to be nit picky i feel that just minium room improvements or a better amp would help having a firmer grip on the bass when playing loud, it does feel full with no port noise but also a little tuning not to have rare situations where it's ever so slightly out of control at high volume

 

[gasolin]

Around 10.000 of my currency for a demo Technics SU-GX70 (retail 12000)

Onkyo Icon A-50 same price save 800 but i have to buy full dirac live

 

[record_spot]

I'm not quite sure how you can judge new speakers out the box on the afternoon they've arrived. Give them a day or two to settle and let the drivers loosen up. Maybe even a little more.

 

[gasolin]

That is just how they sound compared to what i used

I usually do a first impression (out of the box)

The sound with roomfit (improves bass alot) have a very good balance, highs are suble but is there, very good midrange open clear, stock my room takes away alot of bass but roomfit notices it and ads bass under 100hz and remove some of the loud midbass,lower midrange, clean bass and enough for most people, good soundstage (the width of the sound, if the band has 2 meter in width or alot of space to sound wide)

They play loud very nicely

Dali kupic won over the wharfedale diamond 12.1 but i have the 12.1i's and i wouldn't wanna have dali kupid do to price, size/bass combination, low sensitivivty and general the frequency responce problems around 8khz other then that not bad

SoundStageNetwork.com | SoundStage.com - NRC Measurements: DALI Kupid Loudspeaker

www.soundstagenetwork.com

 

[gasolin]

I'm not quite sure how you can judge new speakers out the box on the afternoon they've arrived. Give them a day or two to settle and let the drivers loosen up. Maybe even a little more.

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Apr 11, 2023

Today I picked up my brand new speakers, and returned the loaners that had been ordered in specially for me to try. The shop used the loaners for a few hours, and then I took them home for five days. I probably used them for more than thirty hours. I am sure I perceived some changes to the sound, after three days the bass appeared to get stronger and intrusive, then settled down after a few more days.

Anyway, to my surprise the new ones I picked up today sound the same as the loaners. Obviously I can’t say if the sound is identical, but the changes I thought I heard must have been...

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[record_spot]

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Thread 'Speaker burn in'

Apr 11, 2023

Today I picked up my brand new speakers, and returned the loaners that had been ordered in specially for me to try. The shop used the loaners for a few hours, and then I took them home for five days. I probably used them for more than thirty hours. I am sure I perceived some changes to the sound, after three days the bass appeared to get stronger and intrusive, then settled down after a few more days.

Anyway, to my surprise the new ones I picked up today sound the same as the loaners. Obviously I can’t say if the sound is identical, but the changes I thought I heard must have been...

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Question Thread 'Is speaker 'burn in' real?'

Dec 20, 2023

I've wrestled with the issue of speaker 'burn in' for years, but I'm going to say something that's the truth and will probably sound controversial. My QA3030i speakers, on matching stands have been in the same position for nearly 3 years and I've listened to Chilltrax.com for the same period of time and these speakers are sounding better than they did when I set them up. The foam bungs have been in for a few months and these did remove the bass boom. I have this online radio station on all day, sometimes up to 12 hours, occasionally muted to play and save a track on Spotify, after hearing...

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I'm not talking about speaker burn in.

I'm talking about the drivers loosening up, and physically moving. And that's a thing.

 

[gasolin]

I'm not talking about speaker burn in.

I'm talking about the drivers loosening up, and physically moving. And that's a thing.

It's not the same thing ?

 

[record_spot]

It's not the same thing ?

No. Don't get confused with cable burn in, a speaker has moving parts, which is why your amp needs a decent damping factor that manages the excursion of the driver.

So, and depending on the speaker, the size of the driver or drivers, it might take a little time for the drivers to loosen up a bit.