Teac np h750/cd h750

[JohnnyKid]

I am in the process of upgrading from my aging and disappointing Denon DM38. Looking for something affordable, but with good digital connectivity to run tv/bluray through, with a good cd player. Was set on the Marantz PM/CD6005 combo but have just come across the Teac streaming amp and pairing cd player. Absolutely no reviews of this online, but the specs look great, as is the price at Richer Sounds! I wondered if anyone had any experience of the Teac system and how it might compare with the Marantz?

 

[JohnnyKid]

Just to update, popped into Richer Sounds to have a look at the Teac. Looks great and the specs are brilliant, offering everything I need, ie digital inputs (x2), quality CD player, with added bonus of internet radio. Chap in store know very little about it however. Am going to audition it next week when I have more time. As an aside, is it just me, or are they overly keen on pushing Cambridge Audio kit in Richer Sounds? Something to do with being sole stockists in the UK? Everytime I pop in to enquire about a particular bit of kit the reponse seems to be "you don't want that, you want the Cambridge". Maybe I'm just a cynic! Anyway, if anyone does have any experience of the Teac, I'd be most grateful for any insight!

 

[davedotco]

Just to update, popped into Richer Sounds to have a look at the Teac. Looks great and the specs are brilliant, offering everything I need, ie digital inputs (x2), quality CD player, with added bonus of internet radio. Chap in store know very little about it however. Am going to audition it next week when I have more time. As an aside, is it just me, or are they overly keen on pushing Cambridge Audio kit in Richer Sounds? Something to do with being sole stockists in the UK? Everytime I pop in to enquire about a particular bit of kit the reponse seems to be "you don't want that, you want the Cambridge". Maybe I'm just a cynic! Anyway, if anyone does have any experience of the Teac, I'd be most grateful for any insight!

I believe that Richer Sounds and The Audio Partnership (Cambridge, Mordaunt Short etc) are owned and controlled by the same people, but are set up as separate corporate identities.

If you look at the UK dealer list for both Cambridge and Mordaunt Short you will see that all their dealers are branches of Richer Sounds, so 'House brands' in all but name.

 

[Reijer]

Hi JohnnyKid.

I have a TEAC AI 501DA and it works beautiful with my B&W 685s2. Enough power to drive them, even with demanding music of movies. Connectivity is great, the onboard DAC is good enough for me. No ethernet on board but with a slave-USB.

Nothing wrong with this little magic box. Just try them (with your own speakers).

 

[JohnnyKid]

Finally had an opportunity to audition the Teac noh/cd750 this afternoon. Initially paired it with Tannoy SE and the combo wasn't up to much, with a sparse, almost metalic, disorganised sound. Switched to Q Accoustics 2020i however, and to my ears at least it sounded brilliant. Really good quality CD player both in terms of build quality and playback and through the Qs it produced a really rich but detailed sound. Switched again for Monitor Audio BX2 and again it shone, lots of top end sparkle, rich, centre-stage vocals, although possibly a bit bass heavy with these speakers. Ipod connectivity was great and the sound quality from my (Apple Lossless) files was top drawer. Didn't have an opportunity to try the streaming and internet radio functions. With two digital inputs for Sky box and Blu ray, this system seems a no brainer at £349. Can't understand why it's been largely ignored.

Audition a Denon DF109 ex-display model which is being sold off by a local indie hifi specialist tomorrow, but unless it's beyond brilliant, I'll be buying myself the Teac tomorrow, just need to decide between the Qs and the Monitor Audios to pair with it.

 

[JohnnyKid]

Quick question on Amp power with regard to resistance of speakers. I'm no physicist, but I presume that to get the best performance from an amp, one should pair them with speakers with a nominal impedance that matches that at which the amp wattage is quoted? In other words, if I'm buying an amp that quotes 40W per channel at 6 ohms, I should pair it with speakers that have a quoted impedance of 6ohms to allow the amp to perform at it's very best. Or have I got that completely wrong?!

 

[davedotco]

Quick question on Amp power with regard to resistance of speakers. I'm no physicist, but I presume that to get the best performance from an amp, one should pair them with speakers with a nominal impedance that matches that at which the amp wattage is quoted? In other words, if I'm buying an amp that quotes 40W per channel at 6 ohms, I should pair it with speakers that have a quoted impedance of 6ohms to allow the amp to perform at it's very best. Or have I got that completely wrong?!

You have it completely wrong.

Essentially amplifiers find it easier to drive higher impedencies, the greater the load, the greater the ease and the accuracy with which the amplifier transfers the signal.

Unfortunately speaker output depends on the power delivered to the speaker, the higher the impedance, the lower the power deliverd by any given amplifier, so for practical reasons speakers are usually limited to the range 4 - 16 ohms.

So essentially amplifiers are a balancing act, to drive low impedance speakers you need to provide lots of current and, ideally, have a lower output impedance, the current gives you the power, the low output impedence the control. Both are expensive.

Generally (very broard brush here) 8 ohm is the modern norm, most amplifiers are optimised for this. However since power delivered by the amplifier is higher at lower impedance (on paper at least) the amplifier is often specified into lower impedances to make it sound more powerful than it actually is.

A lot of budget units, especially all in ones, specify power into 6 ohms for just this reason, some manufactures specify their speakers to match, impedance really is pretty nominal, it does vary with frequency, a lot. B&W are very helpful as they specify both a 'nominal' and a minimum impedance.

 

[JohnnyKid]

Ah, that's interesting, thanks for that. Helps with my speaker choice, as I had mistakenly thought I should limit myself to 6ohm speakers.

 

[davedotco]

Ah, that's interesting, thanks for that. Helps with my speaker choice, as I had mistakenly thought I should limit myself to 6ohm speakers.

No problem.

The only thing to concern yourself with is the minimum impedence of the speaker, generally this will be a bit lower on a nominally 6 ohm speaker than on an 8 ohm one, but the difference should be too small to be of consequence.

Generally, with budget electronics it is best to avoid low impedances, this might give you more power in theory, but the amplifier power supply will limit this anyway. Power supplies are expensive, so in budget components the manufacturer will use the smallest one he can get away with.

Ergo, by a 6 ohm or the more common 8 ohm speakers, either will be fine.

 

[Mad leveller]

Can anyone recommend a subwoofer for the Teac np-h750, I am currently using wharfdale diamond 220's and just want a bit of extra oomph

cheers