Streamer ideas

[Blacksabbath25]

Ok if you lot can come with some ideas for a really good streamer for me to demo and I do not mind secondhand as long as it’s a good sorce and obviously I want it to be fully balanced as well so I can use the other inputs on my Yamaha 3000 .

its got to have a great onboard Dac as well and great build quality .

i most probably sell my Yamaha A-S2100 amplifier and the money I have saved to buy a good streamer so maybe the budget will be £1500-£2000

And I will try and demo them *smile*

 

[steve_1979]

Yamaha NP-S2000 to match your CD player and amplifier. A bit overpriced IMO but probably very good quality and well built.

 

[CnoEvil]

I think you already know my suggestion (including a Klimax Renew DS/1 second hand).....which should be compared with the Naim equivalent.

You might find a second hand Electro ECM 1

 

[hybridauth_Facebook_100004211376004]

not balanced though and I doubt you'll get a balanced xlr streamer in this price range Sabbath....but it's got good connectivity sounds good and should give that system some of the naim prat that I think might be lacking.....go dem one and I'm sure they come up on eBay quite often....linn streamers are also great quality but I think their more laid back nature might give you an overall smoother than silk sound that might get a bit boring for you further down the line.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

Yamaha NP-S2000 to match your CD player and amplifier. A bit overpriced IMO but probably very good quality and well built.

that’s been discontinued the only way I could buy one of them is secondhand and I would have to buy blind but yes the quality of the build is definitely there .

 

[CnoEvil]

I always heard good things about it. Here is a Streamer League table I posted a few years back (which put it level with a Sneaky).:

https://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/streamer-league-table

What HiFi review: https://www.whathifi.com/yamaha/np-s2000/review

 

[Blacksabbath25]

not balanced though and I doubt you'll get a balanced xlr streamer in this price range Sabbath....but it's got good connectivity sounds good and should give that system some of the naim prat that I think might be lacking.....go dem one and I'm sure they come up on eBay quite often....linn streamers are also great quality but I think their more laid back nature might give you an overall smoother than silk sound that might get a bit boring for you further down the line.

they are about £2000 new I think but not sure how the Naim streamer will connect with my Yamaha 3000 but yes I would have to go to Sevenoaks audio for a demo on that one

 

[steve_1979]

Yamaha NP-S2000 to match your CD player and amplifier. A bit overpriced IMO but probably very good quality and well built.

that’s been discontinued the only way I could buy one of them is secondhand and I would have to buy blind but yes the quality of the build is definitely there .

If you buy one second hand and don't like it for some reason you can sell it on and recoup your money with minimal or no loss.

 

[hybridauth_Facebook_100004211376004]

not balanced though and I doubt you'll get a balanced xlr streamer in this price range Sabbath....but it's got good connectivity sounds good and should give that system some of the naim prat that I think might be lacking.....go dem one and I'm sure they come up on eBay quite often....linn streamers are also great quality but I think their more laid back nature might give you an overall smoother than silk sound that might get a bit boring for you further down the line.

they are about £2000 new I think but not sure how the Naim streamer will connect with my Yamaha 3000 but yes I would have to go to Sevenoaks audio for a demo on that one

it'll connect by the usual rca to rca...or if you want to be awkward....5 pin din to rca.lol.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

Yamaha NP-S2000 to match your CD player and amplifier. A bit overpriced IMO but probably very good quality and well built.

that’s been discontinued the only way I could buy one of them is secondhand and I would have to buy blind but yes the quality of the build is definitely there .

If you buy one second hand and don't like it for some reason you can sell it on and recoup your money with minimal or no loss.

it’s finding one that’s the issue and in black but yes I would of liked that definitely

 

[Blacksabbath25]

not balanced though and I doubt you'll get a balanced xlr streamer in this price range Sabbath....but it's got good connectivity sounds good and should give that system some of the naim prat that I think might be lacking.....go dem one and I'm sure they come up on eBay quite often....linn streamers are also great quality but I think their more laid back nature might give you an overall smoother than silk sound that might get a bit boring for you further down the line.

they are about £2000 new I think but not sure how the Naim streamer will connect with my Yamaha 3000 but yes I would have to go to Sevenoaks audio for a demo on that one

it'll connect by the usual rca to rca...or if you want to be awkward....5 pin din to rca.lol.

I can’t remember if my 3000 has 5pin din but if it expects RCA I will check it out

 

[hybridauth_Facebook_100004211376004]

5 pin din would be on the naim end...the yamy has the rca inputs...but the naim has both rca and 5 pin din.

 

[Andrewjvt]

Auralic aries mini because you can fit a hhd or sad into it for local storage
Then if your heart is set on the chord qutest 2 you can connect to the chord dac with the digital out

All your CDs stored on SSD without having to switch on a pc apart from the remote app

 

[insider9]

Auralic aries mini because you can fit a hhd or sad into it for local storage
Then if your heart is set on the chord qutest 2 you can connect to the chord dac with the digital out

All your CDs stored on SSD without having to switch on a pc apart from the remote app

Yamaha WXC-50 that Sabbath already has offers bigger functionality. So should he go with Qutest he's set already. No point buying Aries Mini.

 

[hybridauth_Facebook_100004211376004]

When using a nas drive with a server..to whatever streamer..the pc needn't be left on either....you just need it for ripping the cd's as would be the case with ssd/hdd.

 

[Andrewjvt]

Auralic aries mini because you can fit a hhd or sad into it for local storage
Then if your heart is set on the chord qutest 2 you can connect to the chord dac with the digital out

All your CDs stored on SSD without having to switch on a pc apart from the remote app

Yamaha WXC-50 that Sabbath already has offers bigger functionality. So should he go with Qutest he's set already. No point buying Aries Mini.

Sorry never knew the Yamaha also has a 2.5 SATA drive connection

 

[Blacksabbath25]

Auralic aries mini because you can fit a hhd or sad into it for local storage Then if your heart is set on the chord qutest 2 you can connect to the chord dac with the digital out

All your CDs stored on SSD without having to switch on a pc apart from the remote app

Yamaha WXC-50 that Sabbath already has offers bigger functionality. So should he go with Qutest he's set already. No point buying Aries Mini.

now I am confused by that comment

 

[insider9]

For me a streamer has 3 elements. Overall hardware, dac section and software. These can be split or can be all in one box.

With a £1,500 all in one I'm not sure you'll have the most for your money. £1,200 on Qutest doesn't seem so bad.

My issue with majority of streamers is their software. For most part they're just average. Roon offers best software solution in my opinion. You wanted a NAS anyway. Buy a powerful NAS, run Roon on it.

Then all you need to decide on is your endpoint and DAC. These will determine the sound quality. Here you have many options.

 

[insider9]

Auralic aries mini because you can fit a hhd or sad into it for local storage Then if your heart is set on the chord qutest 2 you can connect to the chord dac with the digital out

All your CDs stored on SSD without having to switch on a pc apart from the remote app

Yamaha WXC-50 that Sabbath already has offers bigger functionality. So should he go with Qutest he's set already. No point buying Aries Mini.

now I am confused by that comment 

Aries Mini is very similar to WXC-50 which you already have.

 

[MUSICRAFT]

Hi Bs25

Naim’s new range of streamers should released within the next few months. ND5 XS 2 might also be worth a look.

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft

 

[insider9]

Auralic aries mini because you can fit a hhd or sad into it for local storage
Then if your heart is set on the chord qutest 2 you can connect to the chord dac with the digital out

All your CDs stored on SSD without having to switch on a pc apart from the remote app

Yamaha WXC-50 that Sabbath already has offers bigger functionality. So should he go with Qutest he's set already. No point buying Aries Mini.

Sorry never knew the Yamaha also has a 2.5 SATA drive connection

SATA? No, didn't realise Mini had that.

Yamaha does have a USB 2.0 for connecting an external powered HDD or a large thumb drive.

 

[insider9]

Aries Mini is a fine little thing. Never realised you can install a hard drive inside it. It also has a USB out to DAC which is useful and something Yamaha doesn't offer.

 

[newlash09]

The innuos mini mk2 might be suitable for you black sabbath.

1. Acts as a roon core : If looking at the digital front end. Roon is a must have these day's. Will add immensely to your musical enjoyment. Apparently the zen mini has only 2gb of ram. So not a powerhouse like the zenith. But if your local library is not huge, you can use roon's up sampling to DSD, sound filters, and roon correction dsp. This is the icing on the cake for roon, apart from a great user experience. And all the above improve sound quality.

2. Has a inbuilt cd ripper. Will save you the hassle of ripping all your cd's separately. And will add your cd's to roon database along with album art work.

3. Compact size : only a half width unit. Comes in black too.

4. Inbuilt storage : comes with inbuilt storage of 2TB. You can always choose a 4TB version at a slightly higher cost.

5. OS : comes with innuos's own operating system, apart from roon.

The combination of the zen mini mk2 + chord qutest should give you a real good digital front end. And should be around the 2k mark.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

For me a streamer has 3 elements. Overall hardware, dac section and software. These can be split or can be all in one box.

With a £1,500 all in one I'm not sure you'll have the most for your money. £1,200 on Qutest doesn't seem so bad.

My issue with majority of streamers is their software. For most part they're just average. Roon offers best software solution in my opinion. You wanted a NAS anyway. Buy a powerful NAS, run Roon on it.

Then all you need to decide on is your endpoint and DAC. These will determine the sound quality. Here you have many options.

yes I no I put just streamer on the thread but I should of also put NAS on the thread as well but thought we had talked about this before but got side tracked into buy a new amplifier so I ended in a different direction .

I basically new to this game I need to understand the pros and cons of both setups a proper streamer or NAS and I am old school so I haven’t got my head around this stuff yet as I’ve had a Cd player for to meany years and getting the Yamaha wxc50 was my first attempt at modern technology but I need to understand about NAS drives and what software do I use what’s the best way of connecting all of this with my Yamaha 3000 and of course is this direction right for me will it cost more to do the NAS way or the proper streamer way. .

 

[Macspur]

The innuos mini mk2 might be suitable for you black sabbath.

1. Acts as a roon core : If looking at the digital front end. Roon is a must have these day's. Will add immensely to your musical enjoyment. Apparently the zen mini has only 2gb of ram. So not a powerhouse like the zenith. But if your local library is not huge, you can use roon's up sampling to DSD, sound filters, and roon correction dsp. This is the icing on the cake for roon, apart from a great user experience. And all the above improve sound quality.

2. Has a inbuilt cd ripper. Will save you the hassle of ripping all your cd's separately. And will add your cd's to roon database along with album art work.

3. Compact size : only a half width unit. Comes in black too.

4. Inbuilt storage : comes with inbuilt storage of 2TB. You can always choose a 4TB version at a slightly higher cost.

5. OS : comes with innuos's own operating system, apart from roon.

The combination of the zen mini mk2 + chord qutest should give you a real good digital front end. And should be around the 2k mark.

I might be taking delivery of a mini for home demo this week or next... is it true that Roon comes with a £200 subscription per year?

Mac

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