I misunderstood the topic from reading the replies. *blush*
If so, then KEF, being more neutral and flat.
If so, then KEF, being more neutral and flat.
plastic penguin
Well-known member
- Apr 28, 2008
- 6,702
- 3,312
- 36,570
stevebrock said:
Its never stopped you saying Rega and now Icon is the only way to go. Hypocrite or what?
And yes, I can give a very good idea on Naim amplification. Probably heard Naim amps more than any other. Not heard the 'si' version, but can't seeing it being much different from the 'i' series.
chebby
Well-known member
- Jun 2, 2008
- 1,257
- 34
- 19,220
plastic penguin said:
Tell us, please.
I owned a Naim amp (in an all Naim system) for two years. I know of some regulars here who have owned Naim systems for a lot longer than that.
However, you have "probably heard Naim amps more than any other" so I am curious.
plastic penguin
Well-known member
- Apr 28, 2008
- 6,702
- 3,312
- 36,570
chebby said:
Well, the two dealers I've frequented the most 'Infidelity' and what used to be Audio-T in Epsom were both Naim dealers. If you asked to hear a Rotel or Arcam they would bring out a Naim of some description.
And when these dealers had background music it was generally a Naim.
Plus I've had 2 Nait 5s (5, 5i and 5i Italic) on home dem over the years (Infidelity), and heard XS set-up once just prior to buying the Leema (Audio-T) with Spendor speakers (SA-1 & A5).
All the Naims I've heard has either been connected to MAs, PMCs and MonoPulse.
Oh, and I heard the XS with Dyn Contours at PJ Hi-fi (Guildford).
plastic penguin
Well-known member
- Apr 28, 2008
- 6,702
- 3,312
- 36,570
chebby said:
Whatever reply you would try and shoot down. But over a 10-year period I've heard more Naims than any brand (I haven't owned), yet by contrast, Infidelity are a specialist Rega dealer, and apart from the briefest shop dem of the Elicit-R, one-day home dem of the Rega dac (and the Apollo you found at Audio-T, Camberley), I have little experience of that brand. Did hear the original Planar TTs from Lasky's many moons ago but that's it.
chebby
Well-known member
- Jun 2, 2008
- 1,257
- 34
- 19,220
plastic penguin said:
To be fair PP, you are claiming to have heard Naim amplifiers more than everyone else. ("Probably heard Naim amps more than any other.") That is a big claim given that owners listen to their Naim amplifiers every day, often for years. Even if we don't count all the Naim owners (and ex-owners), we also have at least four Naim dealers here who must have heard them more than you. (And the WHF? reviewers too.)
plastic penguin
Well-known member
- Apr 28, 2008
- 6,702
- 3,312
- 36,570
chebby said:
That's all well and good, but where are the Naim owners (or ex-Naim owners) on this thread, apart from your good self and David, who recommended Sonus Faber speakers.
Anyway, I was replying specifically to a poster, and trying to anticipate the sort of retort he's common with.
plastic penguin
Well-known member
- Apr 28, 2008
- 6,702
- 3,312
- 36,570
chebby said:
Than any other brand not...
If you read #29 in its entirety it should be pretty clear that I didn't mean "than anyone else"... oh never mind.
It was clear even for me a non-native english speaker that PP meant he listened to more Naim models than any other models in his personal hi-fi journey.
Call off the dogs.
Call off the dogs.
I worry for newbies on this site - they will look at your post count and take everyting you say as gospel and that is worrying.
I dont really undestand your point? Hypocrite?
Can you enlighten us all!
I dont really undestand your point? Hypocrite?
Can you enlighten us all!
I'm glad you edited out that flaming comment Steve. Still, even better if you could chill out altogether. This thread has gone balistic for no apparent reason. *wacko*
it was only his naim comment
the only thing he hasnt heard is a modern valve amp
we still waiting for his demo
the only thing he hasnt heard is a modern valve amp
we still waiting for his demo
plastic penguin
Well-known member
- Apr 28, 2008
- 6,702
- 3,312
- 36,570
stevebrock said:
So banging on about Victorian technology doesn't?
Another little example of how hypocritical you are. Remember the my recommendation for Totem Arros? I said can't see them being outgunned by £800 Rega speaker. Power to you, you actually tried some -- No, no, Rega RS3 are much better, the Arros aren't that special.
Over the past few weeks (a month or so), all the speaker threads you've replied to, what have you recommended? Totem Rainmaker. (So much so you even mentioned you might buy some with little one coming along). I know one is a standmounter and t'other a floorstander. That much difference? very much doubt it.
In fact, wouldn't be surprised, with your amp, if the Arros didn't blow your Kudos away.
Could give you other examples of where you've been slightly lopsided with your appraisal, but can't be bothered.
Proac and PMC if you prefer more detail, dynamics and less warmth but not too analytical sounding.
Too my ears, you have to tame Naim amps in general from the slight sounding dryness and harshness that can be apparent from some recordings, as such I use Q Acoustics Concept 40's with my Naim Nait 5si, Arcam irdac, NACA A5 cables, Naim highline power cord, Kimber silver streak interconnects, Apple mini ipad 3 with Audioquest carbon lightnin usb-a cable and acoustic wall panels, simply one behind each speaker.
Too my ears, you have to tame Naim amps in general from the slight sounding dryness and harshness that can be apparent from some recordings, as such I use Q Acoustics Concept 40's with my Naim Nait 5si, Arcam irdac, NACA A5 cables, Naim highline power cord, Kimber silver streak interconnects, Apple mini ipad 3 with Audioquest carbon lightnin usb-a cable and acoustic wall panels, simply one behind each speaker.
Frank Harvey
Well-known member
- Jun 27, 2008
- 567
- 1
- 18,890
Hi,
I have Naim si combo and 2x4m NAC A5 cables and I tried many many speakers in my room (4mx4m) such as dynaudio emit, excite x12 and x14, B&W 685 S2, CM1 (not S2), Old proac tablette, q acoustics concept20 and 3050, Quad S1 and S2 - these two at the salesman. I was preparing to give a shot to the Tannoy XT6 or XT6F at the same time when I called the Focal distributor to see what arrangment I can achieve. After a day or two, he agreed to lend me focal aria 906 from the shop (runned-in) and brand new out the box chorus 706. I tried aria first, but when I turned louder music broke away. Compression was obvious. I was uncertain wheather I'd listen choruses or not. What mistake I've could done??? There's nothing close to match that combo - I simply could not belive my ears. I've immediatley called the distributor to see if the delivered arias perhaps have flaw or something. He denied it. Instantly I recalled what Naim manager told in the what hifi interview few years ago - All instrument, at the same time all the time - and that's exactly what I heard. I caught myself in constant crytical listening and then I realized that there's no need for that anymore- I can simply enjoy music like never before without any fatigue. I strongly recommend everyone to try Focal Chorus 706 with Naim Nait 5si/CD 5si.
I have Naim si combo and 2x4m NAC A5 cables and I tried many many speakers in my room (4mx4m) such as dynaudio emit, excite x12 and x14, B&W 685 S2, CM1 (not S2), Old proac tablette, q acoustics concept20 and 3050, Quad S1 and S2 - these two at the salesman. I was preparing to give a shot to the Tannoy XT6 or XT6F at the same time when I called the Focal distributor to see what arrangment I can achieve. After a day or two, he agreed to lend me focal aria 906 from the shop (runned-in) and brand new out the box chorus 706. I tried aria first, but when I turned louder music broke away. Compression was obvious. I was uncertain wheather I'd listen choruses or not. What mistake I've could done??? There's nothing close to match that combo - I simply could not belive my ears. I've immediatley called the distributor to see if the delivered arias perhaps have flaw or something. He denied it. Instantly I recalled what Naim manager told in the what hifi interview few years ago - All instrument, at the same time all the time - and that's exactly what I heard. I caught myself in constant crytical listening and then I realized that there's no need for that anymore- I can simply enjoy music like never before without any fatigue. I strongly recommend everyone to try Focal Chorus 706 with Naim Nait 5si/CD 5si.
Obviously it's not since afmin publish my post. There are only few topics regarding matching naim speakers and people who are in searching will see and read this discussion so please understand that this isn't the place for the people who "know" but also for the ones who are still in quest. That' s suppose to be one of the meaning of this and likes discussions...
davidf
Well-known member
- May 9, 2017
- 1,707
- 1,613
- 23,070
Hence my recommendation that you start your own thread - even if the replies to yours will be similar to here, it's one extra thread for someone to find. As I say, you'll get far more replies suited to your query. I'm just trying to help you get more advice. Or at least some advice.
Forums are for people who know and people who don't know, otherwise you'll have a forum full of 'don't knows' asking questions but not getting any answers...
And 'admins' don't post, your post is automatically posted when you hit save.
Forums are for people who know and people who don't know, otherwise you'll have a forum full of 'don't knows' asking questions but not getting any answers...
And 'admins' don't post, your post is automatically posted when you hit save.
Thabk you for the advice, but English is not my mothertongue as You have probably noticed by now. And then you can see number of my posts then all will be clear. I read all this posts and many other but nobody suggested what I have found out so this is my contribution to the people with a same problem that I had - Content of the posts posted on the internet never did mention a single suggestion similar of mine. On the other hand, I have spent considerable amout of money and time testing guided by experince postwd on this thread and the others. I believe that in this process discovered unique finding - one that I haven't found on the internet. So I do not want to discuss any more and instead I will listen music from now on. Temporary I not aim at the any upgrade.
Facebook
Twitter
Instagram